I took it for a spin the other day. I was disappointed to find that despite it being very lightweight in terms of client requirements (great!) it is extremely slow. I surmise that every page load is making requests to the Mastodon API on your mastodon instance (like a client app would, except this one is running on a server...) rather than caching anything locally. This kinda nullifies the benefits of being a 'lightweight client' in the first place - the UX is getting nerfed for no gain in speed.

Still I appreciate the no-JS ideal and the extreme compatibility and am looking forward to seeing where this project goes.

[–] artwork@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Freaking awesome! I adore PHP! <3

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 8 points 3 weeks ago

This is something you don’t see every day.

I have no strong feelings about php, but I love your enthusiasm.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mbin (like fedia.io and others) is also PHP, built on Symfony

[–] carlnewton@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Listen, I'm going to shamelessly self promote my project all I can! Also PHP, also Symfony: Habitat is a platform for local communities. I don't think PHP gets enough love! It's incredibly versatile and is actually very fast in recent years.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, that sounds nice! How does it work though? Are instances fully self-contained? Or is there cross instance federation or discoverability?

[–] carlnewton@feddit.uk 2 points 3 weeks ago

It is currently not federated, and I should be careful with my words because people often confuse my intent when I talk about this. Federation is planned but ActivityPub is not. More details on this are on github.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was super excited when I saw the headline because I am just about to deploy a headless ActivityPub server, then I realized it's a client for the Mastodon API.

[–] JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When someone's on Mastodon, and they say, "Fediverse," chances are very good that it's only Mastodon that they're talking about.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I understand that coming from users, but not from the project developers. They know they've built a client for the Mastodon API, so it should be described as such.

[–] JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

There have already been too many spare-time devs who came to Mastodon, got totally excited about everything, decided to develop something for "the Fediverse", built it hard against only Mastodon and then learned that the Fediverse is, in fact, not only Mastodon.

See FediDevs which, for quite a while, was built against only Mastodon and against Mastodon-specific elements of Mastodon, which did not work with anything that isn't Mastodon, but which still kept "Fedi" in its name.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Adele Codeberg? She was one of the designers of Smalltalk, I thought. So I'm surprised to hear that about PHP.

[–] skrlet13@feddit.cl 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

I was making a joke about one of the Smalltalk pioneers, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_Goldberg_(computer_scientist) .

[–] vogi@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

I do love me some /forms!

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

I think the "no-JS' approach is too extreme. I'd rather do a "no-JS framework" buy limited JS.