Oof ouch my free speech : ManufacturingConsent

[–] j5906@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The sanctions against Doğru include the freezing of all bank accounts, an EU-wide travel ban and a de facto professional ban. This means that Doğru is forbidden from engaging in any form of paid employment or self-employment, and no one is legally permitted to provide him with any economic resources. In practice, even inviting him for a coffee would constitute a criminal offence.

Not only Doğru’s bank account but also that of his pregnant wife has been frozen, even though she is not named on the sanctions list. Doğru can access only a minimal subsistence allowance after weeks of approval by the Bundesbank (German Federal Bank). His freedom of movement has been curtailed, and he cannot legally be employed as a journalist—for instance by junge Welt, which enquired about hiring him—because, according to the German Economics Ministry, such employment would violate the EU’s “prohibition on making funds available” and would constitute a criminal offence.

[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Germany is so fucked up.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

He has to beg for the right to eat, an alleged human right.

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

"Sure, we're screwed over by Epsteins but at least we can complain about it. No not like that, don't be antisemitic!"

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

what's to stop someone else from posting videos of her talking...

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like it it would violate what essentially sounds like a gag order and they’d probably rearrest her. The person posting would probably not get in trouble, but who knows with the crazy anti Palestine laws the morons have in place.

[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The concepts of 'Anti-Semitism' and 'Holocaust™' are pushed by the vast majority of world jewry

A taste of her Twitter account. That's holocaust denial and just downright insane.

There's definitely a debate to be had about how far free speech should go, but let's not omit important facts in this case.

And there is absolutely no equivalence with the Iranian regime.

[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

shut the fuck up you genocider

You left out the entire damn paragraph, in fact.. you even left out most of the sentence! Manipulative behaviour

[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because the context doesn't change Jack shit. Read it. Tell me what the fuck the context is supposed to change.

But your reaction to it says a lot.

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The context is that Zionist Jews act like they're perpetual victims as they exterminate hundreds of thousands and displace many more.

[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I fully agree with the idea that many Jewish people perpetually pressent themselves and Israel as victims while Israel is committing massive atrocities, and it pisses me off and disghusts me, as well.

There's a massive difference between that and calling the Holocaust a concept, putting it in quotation marks and adding a ™ at the end. The first is a legitimate argument/complaint. The second is clearly putting the Holocaust into question.

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I believe it's bad phrasing but I'm less interested in policing that during a genocide. Either way they are concepts because everything is, "concept" doesn't mean made up. And the Holocaust wasn't unique during the time nor did it only target Jews, but western (and western aligned) schools often portray it with complete disregard for these facts. They don't mention Hitler was inspired by the US genocide on indigenous people, they don't mention that the Germans genocided people in Africa before the nazis were a thing, they don't mention that they were just as eagerly murdering Slavs and Roma people, it's just "Hitler was a madman opportunist that somehow convinced everyone to kill the Jews specifically". I didn't even learn about Martin Luther writing "On the Jews and their lies" which showcases that Christian antisemitism was the basis for modern antisemitism. And instead we get told that valid criticism of Israel makes you an antisemite, and when Israel kills Jews in Iran it's radio silence.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My latest theory is that the best way to spot the Racists weaponizing it for Racial-objectives amongst those who talk about the Holocaust, is to notice the ones who only ever talk about a single one of the groups targeted by the Nazis and literally never mention any other group.

The Roma People, for example, were targeted by the Nazis for extermination right alongside the Jewish People (their extermination having been ordered by Hitler himself), yet they are never mentioned by Zionists and their supporters, nor are they claimed to deserve "unwavering support" by German politicians (the double standard in terms of recognition of their victimization and of who is deserving help for being victimized, depending on their ethnicity, is a pretty clear continuation of the Racist Discrimination mindset of the NAZIs in Germany).

There are countless movies about the victimization of Jews in the Holocaust, including Oscar winning ones, but only about 14 movies in the whole World ever made during all this time, about the victimization of the Roma in the Holocaust.

There is The Holocaust, the extreme Genocide in Europe in which the NAZIs targeted Jews, Roma, the Handicapped and other smaller groups, and then there is The Holocaust^TM^ which is a Propaganda story created based on that true event which changes it to one where only ever the Jewish People were targeted and the goes on and uses that to justify as acceptable for the self-proclaimed representatives of the Jewish People to mass murder innocents who were never in any way, form or shape involved in The Holocaust, much less to blame for it.

I absolutely can see why people cast doubt on The Holocaust^TM^ the Propaganda adaptation by White Jewish Supremacists of a cherry-picked subset of the story of what happened in real Holocaust, leveraged using "they're all the same" Racist Logic to justify that people who share nothing with said victims but an ethnicity to be the recipients of such extreme special treatment not extended to other ethnicities that a blind eye is turned on the extreme murderous behavior of some because of nothing else than their ethnicity.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not on Twitter so can't confirm. Is she questioning the actual holocaust, or criticising its use to justify/defend current day Israel? The cheeky trademark seems to imply an effort to differentiate the holocaust "brand" from the actual historical atrocity.

Purely based on the comments, it seems like you're doing the exact thing it seems to be a criticism of?

[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth -1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not on Twitter either, I just wanted to better understand what was going on. And I specifically linked to xcancel so anyone can go ahead and read it.

Nowhere in the tweet is there any mention of a Holocaust "brand", as absurd as that would be. Antisemitism and the Holocaust are referred to as things that are pure concepts, and not something real or as you correctly state a historical atrocity.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nothing she said in that tweet is wrong. She doesn't back up the claims with elaborate articles but she's entirely correct. In fact it's almost comical if it wasn't so sad that you're smearing her, a Palestinian, the most oppressed democraphic in the world for pointing out that Palestinians are being oppressed. The empathy you feel for Jews is what you should feel for Palestinians.

As uncomfortable as it makes you feel there's no systematic oppresion of Jews in the world whatsoever. In fact it's literally the opposite. Jews are currently the most privileged demographic in the entire world.

Tariq Acknickulous- Privileged Reality of Jewish Demographics

There's a massive campaign to paint Jews as oppressed victims in the modern day and age (yes Jews were oppressed in the past, but not anymore), which is primarily led by Zionist Jewish institutions. ADL. StopAntisemitism, CombatAntisemitism, UK Lawyers For Israel, virtually every antisemitism "monitor" is a Zionist Jewish organisation. Even the"Antisemitism" article she pointing out about Amsterdam is Zionist Jewish students which "felt offended" by other Dutch students protesting against genocide and holding Palestinian flags.

Tariq Acknickulous- The "Rising Antisemitism Crisis" Hoax

On the other hand the UK arrests and beats up people for supporting Palestine action and opposing an actual genocide. Opposing real systematic oppression and genocide lands you in jail.

Or if you want, here's an article written by a Jew explaining it in further detail.

Amanda Gelender - Yes All Jews

[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not smearing her, I'm merely pointing out what she herself wrote. And my criticism isn't for saying Palestinians are oppressed. Of fucking course they are, no one here in this thread is claiming otherwise. What I wrote was something entirely different.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You ripped the sentence completely out of context.

[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth 0 points 2 weeks ago

Lol I didn't. It's precisely the reason I linked to her post. So anyone can see that the context doesn't change Jack shit.

Inventing Reality