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Zelenskyy says Ukrainian forces shot down Shahed drones in Middle East during Iran war (www.cbc.ca)

submitted 2 days ago by HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works to c/world@lemmy.world

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Ukrainian military personnel shot down Iranian-designed Shahed drones in multiple Middle Eastern countries during the Iran war, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said, describing the operations as part of a broader effort to help partners counter the same weapons used by Russia in Ukraine.

Zelenskyy made his first public acknowledgment of the operations Wednesday in remarks to reporters that were embargoed until Friday. He said Ukrainian forces took part in active operations abroad using domestically produced interceptor drones proven in countering Iranian-designed Shahed drones used by Russia in Ukraine.

"This was not about a training mission or exercises, but about support in building a modern air defence system that can actually work," Zelenskyy said.

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[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 18 points 2 days ago

USA still isn't going to help you bro.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Let’s set all ethics and politics and humanitarianism aside.

From a selfish, strategic, “NonCredibleDefense” kind of perspective, Ukraine is an incredible military power. Militaries around the world should be on their knees begging for their experience, if not their units. With, for instance, shooting down drones.

And it’s absolutely mind boggling to me that Western powers don’t see that. Think how Ukraine could help them militarily all over the world… If I were Xi, I wouldn’t invade Taiwan with a bigger chunk of Ukrainians training them.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Needs to be cross-posted to lemmy.ml news.

[+] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de -7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I mean Ukraine has no business fucking around in the middle east war tbh

[–] encelado748@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ukraine has no business defending against the same drones Iran used to bomb Ukranian cities during Russia invasion of Ukraine?

Maybe I am missing something here. Does not look like Ukraine is part of the aggressor here.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can guarantee that weapons and components from Ukrainian allies have been used to attack Ukraine. That logic doesnt stick. If countries would always go to war with every country that supplied weapons to their enemy, then every war would be an all out world war involving almost every country in the world.

[–] encelado748@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ukraine is not at war with Iran. Ukraine is helping defend against Iran attach to countries around Iran. The US is attaching Iran. The US asked no help to Ukraine.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ukrainians personally shot down a foreign countries military assets during wartime, thats an act of war.

[–] encelado748@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, it is not an act of war. Article 51 of the UN Charter explicitly grant right to self defence. Inviting other nations to assist in that defence is a right granted by the UN Charter. Iran can obviously consider Ukranian personal as hostile, that is their prerogative, but that does not mean that shooting down drone in self defence is an act of war.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Iran is not the agressor in this war though, so its not self defence on the side of Israel and its allies.

[–] encelado748@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

Iran is the aggressor against the gulf state. No gulf state has made aggressive action against Iran, and there was no military action from gulf states except self defence. All gulf states have no interest in getting involved in the conflict and asked for deescalation at the UN. In a joint declaration from the middle east council on global affairs:

Despite several Gulf states stating that their territory could not be used for the war by the U.S. or Israel, Iran has targeted U.S. military assets across the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) states, with an impact on civilian infrastructure.

When Iran decided to attach civilian targets totally unrelated with the conflict then it became aggressor. Iran can be the aggressor and the target of war at the same time.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Kites with no personell on board, more akin as aiding to de-mine a field.

[–] Forsho@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Iran did not bomb Ukraine.

Russia did use Iranian drones.

If both statement are the same to you then every country that sells weapons to israel is a legitimate target for resistance movement ( like the EU )

[–] encelado748@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If both statement are the same to you then every country that sells weapons to israel is a legitimate target for resistance movement ( like the EU )

Sure, I will not find it problematic if Russia decided to enact defensive measure in Gaza to protect palestine against weapon sold by European nations. I actually would encourage it. I would also encourage any nation to come to the defence of any nation that is a target of an aggressive conquest war from the EU. None materialized as of now for the EU, but for sure I have no problem whatsoever with Russia defending Iran against American aggression. I have problems with Russia being the aggressor.

EDIT: I want to also add that after 2023 numerous EU countries enacted arms embargoes against Israeil. Iran started supplying the drone to Russia after the invasion and to support the invasion. That is a worthy enough difference to me.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Ukraine intercepted Shahed drones. They DID NOT bomb Iran.

Get your facts straight buddy.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It is called mutual help, which, Ukraine is now forced to provide because of help that was offered to it before. Otherwise it will look like a dipshit country that only can receive help but not give it.

[–] Forsho@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or some would say that the Ukraine regime is a puppet of western imperialism as it is directly supporting an illegal war by the US (and its dogs) on my region

[–] encelado748@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Trump explicitly rejected help from Ukraine with drone defence. And he has done so multiple times. The help Ukraine is given is to UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait and Jordan, not the US.

[–] Forsho@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

as i said in my message (and its dogs) those countries you listed are puppets regimes controlled by US, and are literally here to serve western imperialism interests.

ukraine should focus on liberating it self from russia occupation and it should stop being a puppet state for the epstien class.

[–] encelado748@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And you continue to ignore that the US stopped support for Ukraine as soon as the epstein class came to power, that Trump attacked Zelensky numerous times, tried to force a peace deal drafted by Russia onto Ukraine (demanding recognition of occupied territories and more), and the suspension of Intelligence and Residual support (now provided directly by Ukraine and France as Primary alternative provider).

Helping Gulf states is instrumental is creating defence partnership that fuel Ukraine war economy against Russia. This is done as the US is not supporting Ukraine anymore and is arguable more favorable to Russia (easing of sanction to Russia, normalizing Russia-US economy cooperation, and redirecting military supply paid by Europe for Ukraine to domestic needs instead)

What you say is just false.

[–] Forsho@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I didn’t even mention US support of Ukraine, not sure what are talking about.

BTW, the US aid didn’t stop since the Epstein class of senators did approve 600 mill plan of military aid for Ukraine in 2026. (which by march 2026 is being shifted for israel)

Helping puppet states (like gulf monarchies) and interfering with other regions warfare just proves that this Ukraine regime is another puppet for western imperialism.

Stop trying to legitimize Epstein war actions in my region.

I never supported Russians aggression towards Ukraine people because i know what is it like to live under occupation and imperialist oppression.

[–] encelado748@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

BTW, the US aid didn’t stop since the Epstein class of senators did approve 600 mill plan of military aid for Ukraine in 2026.

As of today 0 dollars are coming to Ukraine as the president has effectively stalled them

Helping puppet states (like gulf monarchies) and interfering with other regions warfare just proves that this Ukraine regime is another puppet for western imperialism.

Helping some independent states (not western) to defend themself is proof of western imperialism? Sure thing... you are making a lot of sense.

[–] Forsho@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago

Lol at you using the term “independent states”

that really proves you know nothing about my region or its history if you think that puppet countries created by western supported monarchies are independent entities.

Those puppet regimes you call independent cant even have a say when their land is being used by US occupation bases to bomb little girls schools in iran.

You are missing the whole point, this Ukraine government is another western imperialist puppet that is clearly showing by its actions to interfere with a regional war while its land is being occupied by Russia.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

It is a return of favor for all the help that was given for the Ukraine from other countries. Ukraine knows how to deal with this type of weapons. Despite some civilian protests, Zelenskiy send small group of soldiers as instructors to help with drones. This is done to increase levels of importance and friendship for Ukraine. That is all.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

Russia supports Iran, Iran makes shahed drones for Russia. It’s a proxy war.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The USA has no business fucking around in the... everywhere. Providing air support (air defense? What's the word here brain?) is fine by me. Maybe not for the aggressors (Israel and USA) though.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

No fucking business defending against the regime that designed and produced the drones that have been knocking their civilian infrastructure for four years. Get a fucking grip.

There is very little he cant do at this stage, he has the mandate to protect his country's borders. I'd love to know what country you are from with their gold star foreign policy?

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Everyday I like this guy less and less. I understand that he's trying to ingratiate himself into more US support, but bragging about his part on the wrong side of the Iran conflict is stupid.

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Iran is on the good side now?

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean "now"? In opposition to Israel and the US they are absolutely on the good side.

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The iranian government that executed thousands of protestors? I'm all for the iranian people getting a better life after this but the only good side are the innocent bystanders.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Is there a "good" government out there somewhere? Have the years of sanctions and now bombs been good for the Iranian people? Were they better off under the hated Shah? You don't need to like the Iranian government to see that they are defending their country from unjust attack.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Back off the man, he is holding his country together. He pretty much gets a pass for any public statement that aids his efforts. The US are wrong for starting a war, he is not wrong for helping defend a third nation.

The US support is dead, the president is an assett of theor occupying enemy.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think this public statement aids those efforts.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Showing their capability is such that they provide assistance to other countries sucessfully?

Probably a reason you are not a political advisor I guess.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Showing he supports genocide I guess.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was disappointed with his reaction to gaza but it makes sense where henis sitting. He cant afford to take a stance on everything, its the same reason he hasn't said that Trump is a Pedo - he cant afford to piss off these people. Trump is already on Russia's side and Bibi owns Trumps ass.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

I get it.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 2 days ago

Was it the Ghost of Ukraine?