See I'd have just made an anti-Beep rule and called it a day, good on you for really diving into the role o7
Comic Strips
Comic Strips is a community for those who love comic stories.
The rules are simple:
- The post can be a single image, an image gallery, or a link to a specific comic hosted on another site (the author's website, for instance).
- The comic must be a complete story.
- If it is an external link, it must be to a specific story, not to the root of the site.
- You may post comics from others or your own.
- If you are posting a comic of your own, a maximum of one per week is allowed (I know, your comics are great, but this rule helps avoid spam).
- The comic can be in any language, but if it's not in English, OP must include an English translation in the post's 'body' field (note: you don't need to select a specific language when posting a comic).
- Politeness.
- AI-generated comics aren't allowed.
- Limit of two posts per person per day.
- Bots aren't allowed.
- Banned users will have their posts removed.
- Adult content is not allowed. This community aims to be fun for people of all ages.
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Best. Response. Ever!!! π€£
Should i just unsub now before i get banned for using normal adult language?
Miss me with the fuckin family friendly shit.
That's exactly what this formerly unmoderated, yet tame community needs: ti be forced into being PG. π
You do whatever the fuck you feel is the best thing for you. But, before you go, feel free to check out my revisions that I've made. And thanks for the fucking feedback! :)
I appreciate this reply.
Please reconsider censorship of adult content. This rule is most unwelcome
The idea was never to censor adult material. But, you and a lot of other people have made your case, and I have updated the proposed rules. Hopefully it helps me more clear.
Finally. Glad to have a mod here. Not really too keen on the PEGI 7 rule, censorship is pretty useless of a concept but I understand I'm in the minority here around that but making it literally cartoon levels of censorship feels overkill.
No 18+ material is fine, I understand cultural controversy around this type of content, but limiting the scope of artwork to not be able to include depictions of violence, blood, or character death (going from the included description of PG/PEGI 7) is something that is incredibly and arbitrarily limiting and something that I personally am against in a sub centered around storytelling and artistic expression.
Otherwise it looks like this sub might be turning around and we can be rid of a few problems plaguing it.
I am not against adult material. I have updated the rules, so please reread them and let me know what you think. The whole point of this post is to get feedback and refine ideas. :)
This was my first comment made after reading. I did see and respond to your other comments on this post after I had made this one. This was just my first response to the post itself.
Welcome aboard, jerkface(with love). Glad to have ya.
There are now over 100 comments. It's getting difficult to keep up. π
Understandable.
People have been waiting for the mod announcement post for a while here. Not surprised it blew up.
In response to those who have mentioned the PG/PEGI 7 rule, how does this work for a compromise?
ποΈ Community Standards
Posts should be safe and enjoyable by the majority of community members, both here on lemmy.world and other instances. Any comic that would qualify as raunchy, lewd, or otherwise draw unwanted attention by nosy coworkers, spouses, or family members should be tagged as NSFW.
Graphic content of any kind will not be tolerated. This includes gore, pornography, or violence.
Moderators have final say on what and what does not qualify as safe and enjoyable. Use common sense, and if need be, err on the side of caution.
No gore or pornography is understandable but the "no violence" thing seems a bit too much.
"Violence" is such a vague term and, considering storytelling, violence is a main driver of conflict in many stories. Fights break out and being able to tell these stories of strife and conflict is something we should be encouraging, not limiting.
this seems as a fair rule βΊοΈ
Just an fyi that would exclude Oglaf since I would say itβs very hard to say itβs just lewd and not full on porn for a lot of it.
I think my only issue is that comedy is a form of content that pushes the boundaries. I know my personal form of comedy would have most things I enjoy broadly marked NSFW and its kind of hard to know what the future line in this community will be for graphic content.
Thank you for taking on the responsibility, the little background info does inspire confidence. Very cool.
I kind of preferred the rules as they were. This is kind of a wall of text, hard to parse and will probably mostly go unread.
I think keeping the old and just adding the anti bot rule and attribution rule is fine. Just saying attribution must be kept on the image frame if possible is enough. I think bumping up the 2 limit per day max is alright but 5 might be a lot. Quality over quantity and all that.
I'm really against any kind of heavy handedness for raunchy comics, especially if it's about the joke and not the image itself. Having people tag the NSFW stuff (ie actual nudity, sexual content, dildos, etc) is fine imo.
For violence, I mean, we are all adults here and it's cartoon violence in any case. It just feels a bit puritanical to be hard on this kind of stuff. It doesn't really feel like a problem.
Sorry if this is overly critical. Thanks for the help!
I appreciate your honest criticism. Please revisit the post as I have updated some of the rules based on feedback, as well as the formatting. Hopefully it'll be a little easier to parse.
πΆ Keep it at PG/PEGI 7
Can we add an 'unless tagged NSFW' addendum to this? There's plenty of quality NSFW things that get posted here (e.g. Oglaf comics) and I for one would be sad to see them go (or to have to create a new community for those things).
Edit: To add to this, looking back at post history, it looks like we get about 1 NSFW post per week here, give or take. Have those really been problematic enough to warrant a ban (when appropriately tagged?)
I'd be in favor of using PG-13 as the baseline, not PG. A lot of the stuff here I probably wouldn't show a 7 year old. Lemmy isn't exactly a children's site anyway.
NSFW tags can be used for anything you wouldn't show a minor, but keep in mind this isn't a porn community - adult topics and suggestive content are okay, but actual porn is not (unless we do want to allow it???).
Going with the PEGI ratings for sexual content might be a bit more helpful. (There's a bit of interpretation leeway because this is written for games not comic strips)
This [sex] content descriptor can accompany a PEGI 12 rating if the game includes sexual posturing or innuendo, a PEGI 16 rating if there is erotic nudity or sexual intercourse without visible genitals, or a PEGI 18 rating if there is explicit sexual activity in the game. Depictions of nudity in a non-sexual context do not require a specific age rating, and this descriptor would not be necessary. Wikipedia
If I'm reading this correctly, PEGI 12 is if it subtly references sex in someway, or if a character is in a "sexy" pose; a "let's Netflix and chill" or "is that pickle in your pocket" type of thing.
PEGI 16 is the sex scene on TV that your parents always seem to be watching when you walk in. It doesn't show main parts of the act, but you know what they're doing.
PEGI 18 is just porn.
From those descriptions, I suggest allowing PEGI 12 with no tagging necessary, PEGI 16 must be tagged, and PEGI 18 is not allowed.
I'd get rid of the last sentence of the wiki description too to make it simple - if there's nudity tag it as nsfw.
Or even simpler; If you'd get arrested for showing it to a 16yr old, tag it. If you'd shoot your "creepy uncle" for showing it to your 16yr old kid, tag it.
I'd apply similar rules for violence, pegi 12 is fine, pegi 16 tag it, and pegi 18 is guro/NSFL and not allowed.
The original rule stated:
Adult content is not allowed. This community aims to be fun for people of all ages.
The adult content is already a rule; I was merely rewording it and trying to offer a clearer definition of "adult content". However, if the community so desires and posts can be properly tagged NSFW, I wouldn't be against adding onto this rule.
But, I also do not want this comm to devolve into yet another porn depot. There are instances for that already.
Sure, but the original rule was not being enforced. Presumably given that we have an active mod, now, you're planning to enforce the rules. Basically all I'm saying is, I'd prefer that the content that has been getting posted be allowed to continue to be posted. Nobody's looking for hardcore pornography, but the occasional risque comic should (IMO) not cause problems, as they haven't been for quite some time.
+1 for attribution
-1 for PG. We've been unmoderated for probably over a year now, and it hasn't devolved into anything. Starting to enforce a PG filter now is an active change. Not a passive continuation.
Very glad to see this. Obviously this whole thing is happening because of that one troll who was removing attributions from comics. So my question for you is: can you go ahead and remove everything he ever posted here?
Because as long as the unattributed versions are sitting out there, they're liable to be reposted elsewhere, making it harder to find the real versions. It should be stopped at the source as soon as possible.
Other than that, I see that everyone else is already on you about the PG thing.
My origin story on Lemmy is that the first thing I ever posted here was an original comic that I hadn't put anywhere else. It was a Lemmy exclusive, which obviously is not a thing people really do. It got removed because it had the word "balls" in it.
So I posted it to reddit. It hit the front page immediately, and it's been reposted tens of thousands of times across the internet since then. Not to toot my own horn or anything, but I think that means it was some premium content, which seems like something the largest webcomic community on Lemmy would want.
Anyway, I'm actually fine with not allowing full-blown nsfw content here, but "balls" should be allowed.
We will work on the attribution/watermark issues. I have a feeling it'll take time and community effort. But, as I am going through every report, I am seeing that people are commenting and conversating, and I do not want to take that away from them. Also, a lot of the posts have attribution in one form or another, despite the image being cropped. This was either done by the poster as body text, or by a community member.
Anyway, Iβm actually fine with not allowing full-blown nsfw content here, but βballsβ should be allowed.

This you?
You're missing my point. If I drew a comic and signed my name on it, and some jerk removed my signature, it doesn't matter if I get credit in the comments. Because that image is going to get reposted elsewhere, and my name is no longer with it.
In some cases he even used AI to "upscale" comics, and it made changes to the art. All of his posts need to be nuked. They're poisoning the well.
Does anyone have a list of all that troll's accounts? I would like to block them all because that is beyond stupid.
Man, jerkface, I really appreciate you taking on this responsibility, but I'm really wary of a hard pivot to "no adult content"/PEGI 7. I'd even be slightly skeptical toward PEGI 12, but PEGI 7 is pretty restrictive and leaves out really good content that's non-offensive to social media platforms like Lemmy where ~~users are expected (not formally in LW's ToS, but nevertheless expected) to be at least 13.~~ (edit: I'm a dummy; I forgot LW's ToS were 18+. The 13+ assumption was sort of threadiverse-wide, but I totally whiffed the LW-specific part.)
I wouldn't gripe too much over PEGI 12 and allowing for the NSFW tag for exceptions (because that covers 13+), but PEGI 7 is saying "let's keep it appropriate for users who shouldn't even be browsing Lemmy unsupervised".
Anyway, your diligent moderation is better than beepsville, and I still really appreciate the hard work I know you're willing to put in.
That looks pretty cool! Really looking forward to seeing this community get to thrive.
Thank you so much, jerkface! We really appreciate you stepping up.
Hopefully this puts an end to beepβs shenanigans.
<3
Hello, and thanks for stepping up.
Bots and AI are cool...
Does this mean the no AI generated comics rule is gone?
Edit: no, it's still in place.
~~Honestly, I think most people here, me included, don't want AI content in this community. It's low effort and there's already other places for gen ai stuff :S please, reconsider this one.~~
...but we value genuine human effort in posts... This is not the place for that sort of thing.
I was trying to be concise, and cheeky, but I see where that might be confusing. Let's see if we can make this more clear:
Comics should be made and posted by real human beans, not by automated means like bots or AI. This is not the community for that sort of thing.
I am also open to any suggestions you or others may have on wording this better.
Welcome!
For the rules, could you use different formatting? A lot of users use mobile apps, and some of them don't format markdown the way Lemmy does. The spoiler tag in particular doesn't get rendered in a lot of them.
For example, this is what I see in Boost:

Perhaps you can do something like
## Rules
1: π Be Nice!
- Treat others with respect and dignity. Friendly banter is okay, as long as it is mutual; keyword: **friendly**
2: πΆ Keep it at PG
Which will format like this
Rules
1: π Be Nice!
- Treat others with respect and dignity. Friendly banter is okay, as long as it is mutual; keyword: friendly
2: πΆ Keep it at PG
You could also shorten some of them to make it more likely that people will read them. For example, moving this to the bottom of the rules section, or taking it out entirely:
Repeat offenders will have their posts removed, be temporarily banned from posting, or if all else fails, be permanantly banned from posting.
I also liked the old sidebar's guidance on "complete stories" because it sums up what this community is intended for and differentiates it from "comics" and "memes". I don't know if it needs to be stated explicitly, but you could potentially include it right at the top with the description line.
I'm also happy to help out if the moderation load gets too much to handle. Feel free to add my LW account if at any point the team could use more hands: https://lemmy.world/u/otter
Boost gang!
maybe worth to name and shame those apps with lack of proper lemmy markdown support.
and ideally check if that has already been reported to their devs, and doing that if it hasn't been done yet.