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[–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

My MAGA relative over Easter weekend claimed they have never really understood why people get so upset about gas prices. 🙄

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

High gas prices are a small price to pay for owning the libs!

[–] danciestlobster@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Either that or claims current gas prices are somehow still bidens fault. Or perhaps Obama

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

It's those liberal A-rabs.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Is it really the onion? I'm certain there are quite a few MAGAts who would say exactly that, because apparently it's necessary to fix the country

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah the onion has a hard time with parody these days, and this time they strayed too much to the truth

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure there are a small number of MAGA voters who are happy about high gas prices.

Ones working in the domestic oil industry, mostly ... especially the owners.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's almost like it's was orchestrated by them...

[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

MAGA believes this war should’ve done sooner (Biden and Obama didn’t have the balls to do what Trump did!), and high gas prices are due to past presidents slow to action.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I had my FIL make this claim that high gas prices are a small price to pay for disarming Iran and taking away their ability to create nuclear weapons.

I wonder what his excuse will be after TACO Tuesday when Trump accepted the Iranian 10 point peace plan which included their right to uranium enrichment, mussels and drones. I’m sure Fox News will feed him some other bullshit line.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mean the exact deal we had in place already to prevent that, but trump withdrew from in 2018 and never got another deal agreed upon and just walked away? That one?

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yep that’s the one!

Of course since Obama did it, it doesn’t count, would never have worked, and probably would have helped Iran develop the bomb faster… /s

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

MAGA Diplomacy

[–] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lots of people agree with Greg Mankiw, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Bush, that gas should be more expensive.

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gas should be more expensive. Just look at all the new cars being sold that only get like 30 mpg, or our crumbling infrastucture because gas taxes are so low, or the impending climate catastrophe.

[–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The two barriers to EV adoption for me is charge time and vehicle purchase cost. If they made the batteries go from zero to full in the same time as it takes to fill a gas tank, and they brought the price way down so its the same as a combustion vehicle, id be first in line.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

It looks like we are getting there, but those issues aren't really as big issues as you think.

You still try to fit EV into ICE mold, where you need to go to special places called gas stations to fuel it. Electricity is ubiquitous and most of the time you will charge your car at your home during night, having "tank" full every day. You almost forget about things called "refueling".

As for price "fuel" is already cheaper, and with how trump fucked up energy market it will be even cheaper (relatively).

But yeah there are massive improvements in charging times and as there's more EVs produced the price will get even lower.

When ICE cars were first created they were also impractical compared to horses.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

If they made the batteries go from zero to full in the same time as it takes to fill a gas tank

I’d argue we effectively do have this, or close enough. Obviously I’d always want better but

  • normally time doesn’t matter: plug in overnight and it’s always full by morning. Then it’s more of an infrastructure problem in that not everyone has a place to plug in
  • on a trip, at a trip charger, my cars trip planning only asks 10-15 minutes of charging to stay on the steep part of the charging curve. If you use the restrooms, you’re almost there

brought the price way down

We can and should have that now. Prices are getting closer to parity so a few more years with incentives would have done it. Or, if we got rid of protectionism and allowed competition, we’d be well past cost parity

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If they made the batteries go from zero to full in the same time as it takes to fill a gas tank

You really don't need this though. How long is your car sitting idle when you're at work or at home? Most people can just charge overnight and would never have to go to a charging station. Assuming you have access to an electrical outlet near your car, of course.

[–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Every other month (and sometimes every month), i do a five-hour one way drive. Occasionally, i drive 11+ hours one way. Several times in my life, Ive driven from one side of the US to the other (pacific coast to east side of the Midwest -- took three days of 12+ hour driving). I want to be able to do those things in my own car at the drop of a hat, and I dont want to add hours upon hours of sitting at a charging station onto these already long trips.

My state capitol is about 4.5 hours away by car -- about 300 miles. Seems like that would be a close shave in the average EV.

Here's the problem with EV proponents: "the problem isnt the mediocre EV tech -- the problem is Fudgy's requirements and expectations for a vehicle." And that's almost enough to make a fella be anti-EV for the sake of being anti-EV. Im not there yet, but im close.

[–] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You do realize that modern EVs (and the appropriate charging infrastructure) can charge 10-80% in less than half an hour, after hours of driving?

[–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can fill my gas tank from 0-100% in less than five minutes and it has a range of 430 miles. Your numbers rely on availability of the super duper chargers and they still dont pencil out in favor of EVs vs ICE on long drives especially when considering range.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

While I don’t entirely disagree, we’re a lot closer than you seem to think

My cars trip planner tends to ask 10-15 minutes of charging at trip chargers to stay on the steep part of the charging curve, and that’s good for 3-4 more hours of driving

It’s not quite as fast as filling a gas tank but if you go in to use the restrooms, you’re most of the way there. It’s really hardly any inconvenience

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

You are basically a rare edge case that makes current EVs a poor fit for your usage/requirements.

EVs make driving better for a vast majority of drivers, but not everyone.

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

300 miles was almost a full tank of gas for me in my ICE car. If you're driving that far for that long all at once, you should probably take a half hour to stretch your legs and walk around a little anyways. Or we could improve inter-city train networks so you wouldn't have to drive at all.

[–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

See what I mean? First it's "you dont need that" and then it's "you shouldnt drive like that." The drivers and their wants and needs are the problem, not the lesser products that are being pushed by EV makers.

No thanks. I'll buy ICE and/or hybrid cars until they make a full EV that meets my wants and needs.

Train networks cost a shit ton of money. Not happening in my corner or travel corridor in the US in my lifetime.

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe you should just accept the fact that you have a very unusual driving pattern and understand that general advice doesn't apply to you specifically.

Most people would be absolutely fine recharging an electric car overnight. If you know that doesn't apply to you, maybe don't be so offended when someone says that it's fine or even better for the average person.

[–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

So the problem exists in that you suggest gas should be more expensive. If you scan back, that's where I jumped into the convo. I jumped into the convo because I inferred that to mean that it would force people into EVs.

Your solution of me shutting the fuck up, continues the conundrum of the would-be consumer just having to adapt their habits to the product.

Most people would be fine in a cloth interior ford fiesta with manual windows and a white exterior. Given the choice, most people choose vehicles that fit their wants and needs. As most people continue to do when it comes to EV adoption.

I prefer a system that allows me to choose which product I want based on my wants and needs, not a system where a lesser product is pushed on the consumer by raising the price on X.

That's literally how we got to this conversation. Im not offended that you want an authoritarian approach to EV adoption. I object and I think youre wrong, but im not offended by it. And if I inferred incorrectly, please let me know and I will cheerfully withdraw any comments that suggest you had implied that we should raise gas prices to force EV adoption.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Gas should be more expensive: look at typical prices in the rest of the world

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

All in, so effective at pushing renewables. Relatively small pain now, less extreme later.

What's this MAGA crap ?