Even if you disagree with what she's saying, she should still be allowed to say it.
this post was submitted on 07 Apr 2026
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Bigotry aside, it's objectively wrong. It's not a fucking developmental disorder. Where do these people get such bullshit from?
From the bible and their own feelings.
I mean, it was considered a medical disorder for centuries. That’s where she got it from.
Their feelings.
Ha ha ha, the standard of local news in this day and age.
How so? Asking as a gay.
Päivi Räsänen, of the Christian Democrats, made the claims in a pamphlet first published in 2004 and reproduced on the website of the Luther Foundation Finland and the Finnish Evangelical Mission Diocese in 2007.
In a 3-2 vote, the supreme court on Thursday found Räsänen guilty of a crime when she republished the pamphlet on Facebook in 2019 and on her website the following year. She was fined €1,800. The court ruled her claim that homosexuality was a disorder of psychosexual development was incorrect.
The title says "convicted" to sound overly dramatic but it's actually just a fine she got for spreading hate online.
She was convicted, the word just means she was found guilty of the crime not necessarily that she was sent to prison.
With such a pitiful fine I bet she could crowdfund 10x from racist chuds.
I bet she already has, probably will hit 100x that.
Although I think finland has fines based on income, at least for traffic violations. Some prick in a bmw got like a quarter million dollar ticket at one point if memory serves for flouting traffic laws, some rich guy.
if that was the bar here in Poland, half of Polish MPs would be in prison
I hope that one day soon, the UK will also make it an offence to tell lies or to cause harm. In medical, legal, nursing and other professions, it's also liable to get you removed or have restrictions imposed upon your practice.
Yeah, they should have a Ministry of Truth.
Bypass any bullshit ministry and send straight to the courts.
Do you believe you can trust the authorities to ascribe what is a lie? Hold on, tell Palestine.
It doesn't work at all currently as there is no downside that they can't talker voters out of.
Make it an offence (as appears to be the case with Finland) and then it's in the hands of impartial courts who themselves are subject to scrutiny and legal tests.
I mean, it's an interesting viewpoint, but I'm not sure I'm entirely on board.
The professions listed are indeed ones where to tell lies could be a direct causal factor in causing harm, so I'm with you with that.
Outwith those safety critical environs though, I'm not sure I like the idea of free speech being curtailed by that degree. As much as I hate it. It's a big leap from where we are now to "lock them up because they're lying". I quite like freedom to drop such wild mistruths such as "no mate the sky is green" or " your relative died peacefully" or "Arsenal are a good football team".
Cool discussion point though.
I don’t see the relationship to be honest. One is professionals telling lies, relevant to their field, that can cause harm to people. The other is you, personally, telling wildly obvious lies about a soccer team. Free speech barely enters into it. Jokes are all well and good in most places but go tell a bomb joke in an airport and it’ll likely be the most expensive joke you tell. Doesn’t mean people are being arrested in the street for making similar jokes. Context is the key factor in this.
Ultimately it's the intention behind the lie/mistruth that matters and unless we find truth serums idk how you can prove them