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[–] HowlsSophie@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Education has no bearing on intellect. Or appropriate life experience.

Also, when people say someone is stupid, crazy, etc, it's because they don't understand that person's perspective.

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 0 points 11 hours ago

Yep. Education isn't inclusive of neurodiversity, non white western ethnic groups, or just different types of intelligence. Academic isn't intelligence

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm continually amazed at how fucking idiots have jobs, buy houses and cars and stuff.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

most of them inherited their money.

most stupid people I meet who have all that stuff, it's because most of it was inherited from mom and dad, or mom and dad had the connections to get them a 100K+ job straight out of college at a friends' company.

And they think anyone who doesn't have all stuff that is expensive as their stuff is stupid, because if they were smart, why wouldn't they be richer than them?

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

College degrees mean you can read and write with a purpose. It doesn't mean you can think. There's a reasons you don't see a ton of conservatives in research science.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I taught college for a few years.

Only about 10-20% of my students showed any evidence of engagement or understanding with the material.

The other 60% were just parroting everything, but that's good enough to get B/C and pass the class and that's all they care about.

And about 20% were total idiots who didn't belong in a college classroom, but the school won't fail them even when they cheat because money. 10% of my students cheated and I reported them and only about 3% of those that cheat get punished for it, the others get passed with a low grade.

[–] CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

These ratios hold pretty true with regards to competency in the workplace, too.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Because people have different standards and don't agree on what smart or stupid is.

I see people praising something as total genius, that I think is stupid as shit. And I see really smart things people say, downvoted into oblivion and called stupid.

People generally think stuff they agree with and makes them feel good is smart, and stuff they don't agree with and makes them feel bad is stupid.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago

All a degree gives you is skill in one particular thing.

It don't give you shit all else.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 2 points 13 hours ago

College degrees just ensure we're specialized.

Or becoming better just ensures you get more work done, and thus more work shoved onto your plate.

I know a guy who was smart enough to go to University, but went to a basic college instead (or rather, a Dutch equivalent). "I don't want to do all that" is his defence in not going to Uni.

[–] allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

I don't think they're acting.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 4 points 18 hours ago

Some people are really good at studying and terrible and doing anything else, specially thinking.

They are the perfect drones, they are smart enough to work the machines and produce for their boss, but dumb enough to ask why.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Education has no bearing on intelligence, or how "smart" you are. Sure, being more educated CAN make you smarter, but most people can skate by and get a degree while learning next to nothing. Plus I think a lot of higher educated yet ignorant people have the nose-above-ear holier then thou complex and can't be told anything they don't agree with or believe in already without throwing a fit. Plenty of educated people are very intelligent, but I think the stupid educated people make a lot of noise and appear as a larger group than they are as well. You know that whole loud minority thing.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

There are only two options: Either they're stupid and can't comprehend things, or you're stupid and can't comptrhent what they can.

[–] nocteb@feddit.org 3 points 18 hours ago

I found that if something seems stupid to me, most of the time I just don't understand their viewpoint. We are all living in our own world based on our limited experiences.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Formal education is just a means to an end, end being typically independence/jobs, not actually intellect (no matter how much it's marketed as such).

[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago

I know someone who earns six figures who can't spell, doesn't know that he's Caucasian, doesn't know the difference between Chinese and Japanese people, thinks it's a fine idea to sit in a swimming pool during a lightning storm, and once wrote a $1000 check to himself, thinking the bank would honor it and he'd suddenly have an extra $1000 in the bank.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

As a person who has recruited technical engineering staff: a degree will prove only that someone has been able to write about a subject, not that they actually know anything about it or are able to practice.

The proof of the pudding is in the probationary period.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Education isn’t intelligence. Academic achievement is done through effort in studying.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When you say, "fucking stupid" is "stupidity" actually the problem? Like what, they can't do math?

Raw brainpower is only a fraction of what's involved in good judgement. Book knowledge is another fraction. But there's a whole host of other factors that can influence decisions. Poor impulse control, psychological hangups, bad habits, greed, privilege, etc. That's assuming that the education they received actually taught them how to think critically in the first place.

The vast majority of the time, when I have a problem with someone, it's not just a matter of lacking brainpower or education. Condensing those problems down to "stupid" is, aside from any other concerns, simply inaccurate.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

also different standards.

one person's clean is another's dirty. etc.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Intelligence and Wisdom are two separate stats.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Intelligence and wisdom are separate things.

E.g. you are intelligent enough to know smoking is bad for you, but lack the wisdom to stop smoking.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit, and wisdom is knowing to not put it in a fruit salad.

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

can't be smart at everything 🤷‍♂️

Education in one field doesn't mean so in all. I still do some things that may be considered stupid, it's just habitual at this point.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If they pay tuition, do the bare minimum to get the bare minimum grades, they'll graduate with a degree, and you'll never know where they fell on the scale. Having a degree has nothing to do with how smart they are. I have met plenty of dumb people with degrees, and plenty of seriously intelligent people without one.

You know what they call the guy who graduated last in medical school? Doctor.

[–] BBB_1980@lemmy.world 111 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Cause education is not equal to intelligence.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Work at a university; try telling that to the academics. Some of them are phenomenally simple that I often wonder how they continue through adult life. The are coinvicrd of intellectual superiority because they're a world expert in frog genders, but struggle to solve simple problems or absorb reasoning without having it dumbed down.

A university is like a daycare for those adults. And the trantrums and toy throwing they have with each other, oh my god. Daily I wonder how some of these people would survive if they ever had to leave school.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 16 points 2 days ago

Academia is a good walled garden for those hyper specialized researchers. They progress research and the institution acts as a patron and sanctuary from the world. Perhaps we should reward continued general education though

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My mom worked as a university professor, then advisor, and what she said about college was "it just shows a prospective employer that you can follow rules and commit to doing something for a few years and follow through on it. That's why they want the degree. Also cuts down on applicants, fewer to sort through."

So, from someone on the inside, she didn't think the main reason was education, in terms of specific jobs. I know in accounting I don't use so much of what I learned and that's a pretty specific degree. Anyone with a mind for numbers & systems could be trained on the job to do what I do.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've used the advanced systems analysis math I learned in university as an actual calculation in my job precisely zero times.

I roughly think about how those models apply to situations and how that will effect the various likely outcomes and behaviours etc on a literal daily basis.

University isnt just about training you to do a job.

[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i'm a mechanical engineer. i know something about electricity and physics. i also have a degree in international trade.

until 2 yrs ago i didn't know how eggs get fertilized and yesterday my wife had to show me how to remove olive pits while preparing ouur cooking.

by all accounts i'm a dumbass with 2 degrees in specific fields that i don't encounter in day-to-day life. i have no idea how to survive in this world. i am sure others feel the same.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago

People say books and college are for to be to make you smarter, but they can also be for to be to get you dead

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago

education doesn't fix stupidity Education can however help with ignorance.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In addition to the many other fine comments here, I will add that when you think someone is so stupid there is often something missing. You may not understand what information they are acting on or you might be interpreting the context according to different values than theirs. As an observer, not understanding someone else’s choice can feel exactly like “damn what a stupid choice.” I try as much as I can to take these as opportunities to dig further and use my imagination to figure out what they must be thinking. Occasionally I come up with something.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I appreciate your outlook and empathy. I think I'm smart. I know I ignore certain things and probably look stupid. But you are absolutely right that you can't know what exact information they're working with as the basis for decisions/statements/opinions. Being able to identify some base misconception can bring about resolution so fast. I still have sudden realizations that uproot some belief I had based on some bullshit my dad said decades ago. If you never had reason to question it, it doesn't enter the critical reasoning part of your head.

Only example off the top of my head is he once said tetanus was, effectively, caused by dogs urinating on rusty metal. I was probably under 10, who am I to question? Well, tetanus is such a rare topic that I never thought about. Working under rusty cars from my teens onward? Not a problem, dogs aren't peeing up into my car. Well, a friend mentioned he'd was updating his tetanus shot around 30 since he also works on rusty cars. "Wait, any rusty metal?" it was a dolly-zoom moment. Turns out, any source material that's contaminated while puncturing skin can do it. It just happens to often be lost nails or broken glass. But I carried that belief for like 25 years.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's worth noting that college degrees are often not hard to get, assuming you have ample finances. Colleges are businesses, and they care more about cashflow than education.

I have a bachelor of science in electrical engineering. Of my graduating class, probably only about a quarter of us actually understood anything. And now working in the industry, it seems like that's a pretty reasonable average for other institutions in my field (there are exceptions, a few colleges have higher standards).

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean, to be fair, electrical engineering is one of the most notoriously difficult to grasp disciplines.

People don't generally have a great intuitive sense for how pulsed electromagnet waves propagate through 3d space and time.

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[–] rozodru@piefed.world 27 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"book smarts" and "street smarts" are two completely different things. My sister is book smart. skipped a couple grades, went to university twice, once for her degree and again for her masters. She's by all means well educated.

She's dumb as a bag of rocks. She's really good at studying. she's a pro at it. but none of that knowledge is ever retained for extended periods of time. Once its "useful" i.e. for a test/exam/SAT/etc then it's tossed out of her head. I can't recall what she earned her masters in but if you challenge her to talk about it today she can't. that's the primary reason I can't remember is because she literally is unable to talk about it.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

She's by all means well educated.

but none of that knowledge is ever retained for extended periods of time.

She is clearly not well educated.

She has been educated but of none of it sticks she herself is not educated and certainly not well educated.

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[–] axx@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

(Academic) education is not intelligence, and certainly not wisdom.

The worst part is this education doesn't protect you from falling for certain loopy ideas. Critical reasoning is a skill and like all skills it needs to be learnt and maintained.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Depends on what you mean by that.

Stupid as in not grasping some concepts quickly?

Education is just a narrow overview of a particular field. Once you're out the narrow scope of what you're taught - it's all about your general knowledge. I know a world-class physicist who does not comprehend basic things about society, economy, relationships etc. And, working in a scientific field, I see plenty of such examples.

Stupid as in unable to aggregate data and synthesize understanding?

The state of modern tech and media more broadly eats heavily into people's attention span. People have harder time concentrating, and it gets so much worse when they need to aggregate all the sources they have. They just don't have enough short-term memory to keep it all together.

Stupid as in making weird life decisions?

Everyone's life experience is drastically different than yours, and, seeing only the surface, people often downplay what others went through and how it shaped their thinking. Sometimes it introduces genuine logical errors into the behavior, and sometimes it just comes from a much different perspective than you can imagine. In their world, the decisions they make makes sense. In your world, you also normally make sense for yourself, even if you're actually irrational in one thing or another. This does, by the way, include all the typical political rants - high-ranking politicians and their numerous advisors are unlikely to all be stupid. More likely, these people pursue different interests from what you imagine.

Overall, the word "stupid" is heavily overused and applied to a lot of different things. So, it always makes sense to clarify, or else it looks more like a rant rather than a genuine question.

Complaining about people being stupid is as old as the world itself, yet it's not very productive or done in good faith. Before claiming anyone stupid, try to ask them for their perspective and the way they look at a problem. And if you're able, unpack what you think is wrong.

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What makes you think it's an act?

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As much as it might seem like it, education doesn't make a person intelligent.

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[–] HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Idk all the reasons, but I watched this yesterday and it blew my mind. Ppl are crippled now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ynCVmw5AWk

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Knowledge is not intelligence.

The difference is the conclusions drawn from the knowledge obtained. Dumb people can survey knowledge and come to wrong conclusions, it happens all the time.

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