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(iii) Proposed provisions specifying that the USPS shall not transmit mail-in or absentee ballots from any individual unless those individuals have been enrolled on a State-specific list described in subsection (b)(iv) of this section with the USPS pursuant to this subsection.

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 182 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

One of the great failings of this government is not providing a punishment for repeatedly issuing unconstitutional orders. He has exactly zero incentive to stop.

[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Our Congress has allowed a lawless president to do whatever he wanted. It is a MAGA coup dresses as Republicans.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

This is pretty much the Republican project all along.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

what I don't understand is why don't they just come out and say "ok, no more elections. this is a dictatorship now" like they keep tip toeing around it, they keep breaking the law, insider trading, illegal operations, all of it and they've gotten away with it every time. So why do they keep teasing something they know they have a strong possibility of getting away with? who are they afraid of?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Doesn’t Russia still hold elections where Putin always wins? Or North Korea?

I think the idea is you keep having elections so you can say you won.

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[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

They're following the Hungary model, which in turn was a variation on the Russian model.

What they're attempting is a "legal coup," which is the typical modern democracy-to-authoritarianism transition. They want to retain the facade of constitutionality and lawfulness, to avoid creating an armed insurgency situation, and to avoid burning the value of the current economic system by crashing the stock market or causing investment to flee.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Checks and balances doesn’t work if one party is in charge of everything. I found the John Oliver episode about Hungary to be particularly terrifying.

Imagine if Trump rigged the election so they had a super majority in the senate and a majority in the house. They could rewrite the constitution. What then?

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 17 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Checks and balances doesn’t work if one party is in charge of everything.

Nixon could not have been convicted without Republican votes. But Nixon resigned, because he knew Republicans would vote to impeach and convict him. So the system can in theory work, even if the system depends on policing its own.

It is in fact quite normal across democracies, for stuff like this to depend on the votes of the party in power.

The problem here is that Republican representatives are traitors to their oaths. And more importantly, that Republican voters are not demanding their representatives to not be traitors.

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 113 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

It will eventually be thrown out in regular and appellate courts after it has had the effect they wanted on the upcoming election. Then SCOTUS will give it a green light because they are part of the authoritarian oligarchy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

after it has had the effect they wanted on the upcoming election

I don't think the anti-GOP sentiment is confined to elderly liberal voters.

Also, Eight states – California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, and Washington – conduct what is commonly referred to as an all-mail election, or universal mail-in voting. In these states, voting is conducted primarily by mail, and all eligible voters receive a ballot by default

I'm not sure how post offices in these states could even respond.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure how post offices in these states could even respond.

By laughing and ignoring it, having the Governors and Attorneys General of those states countermand it with their own executive orders / statements, just straight up saying that this is plainly obviously unconstitutional.

They could then also threaten legal action against anyone at the USPS who does not listen to them.

Its yet another Constitutional Crisis, any way you look at it, but, its not like there's just no possible response.

The President is straight up demanding that Postal Workers engage in a conspiracy to, amongst other things... tamper with people's mail.

So, any manager or supervisor who orders that be done? 30,000 counts of mail fraud, you're arrested and go to jail forever.

Set up a state tip line for USPS workers to report anything like that happening.

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The effect is sowing further distrust in voting by mail and suppressing the vote of people who are being targeted by the government in other areas. In those states anyone who knows citizens who were targeted by ICE could easily assume the same harassment of citizens will happen with mail in votes as well.

Just because it isn't feasible to implement doesn't mean the chilling effect won't happen.

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[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The federal government has no control over voting, it is 100% controlled by the states. The post offices are not legally allowed to do anything to the ballots other than deliver them.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago

They don’t care what they’re allowed to do. They care about what’s technically feasible. They’re exploiting the fact that they can break the law precisely in ways that empower themselves to be above the law before the law can come back around to them. It’s analogous to crowning Trump king and issuing a decree that the transition from president to king was legitimate. What’s the constitution going to do?

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[–] zd9@lemmy.world 80 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I love that the noose of reality is tightening around this regime's neck.

However, as they see the end they're getting more and more dangerous, because there's no way they're going to let themselves face justice at the end. I predict this summer and fall are going to be the darkest times of my lifetime, and potentially a lot of violence from the regime.

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 24 points 2 weeks ago

J6 was just a practice run. This revenge tour he's shown us the past year only proves he will not go down without a fight... and his base are so embolden now, they will absolutely do whatever the hell they want knowing their king will back them up.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I love that the noose of reality is tightening around this regime’s neck

I mean, I remember this gleeful enthusiasm back in 2006 and 2018. Very likely there's a bloodbath in the next election. But... what comes next?

Will Dems actually be in charge of the Senate? Or do we get the "John Fetterman Says No" show for the next two years?

Does the House try and rein in the President or just double down on war funding while doing photo ops of Hakeem Jeffries shrugging impotently?

Go back to Pelosi's House under Bush. And Pelosi/Schumer under Trump 1. These were not inspiring moments of liberal leadership.

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[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 72 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

So the USPS doesn’t have to do this, they don’t report to the president, and I don’t think this is in any way legal.

If the postmaster general follows this order I would hope anyone in Congress could haul him in and have him arrested.

States run elections, period, and this is blatant election tampering.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The postmaster was appointed during trump's first term and was constantly trying to destroy the USPS then, and has been trying since.

They are sitting on a huge pension fund that team trump wants to embezzle or spend on war.

Biden admin did not push to get rid of him, so this was part of a bipartisan finance driven plan to destroy the USA.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 21 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

One more Biden/Democratic failure. They had four years to get rid of that traitor who was systematically destroying the USPS, and after trying absolutely nothing, they were out of ideas, and he's STILL there. They aren't any more effective when they have power, than when they don't. Fucking LOSERS.

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[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago

Just like other past irregularities, mild repurcussions after the fact is too late when the election is already stolen.

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[–] core@leminal.space 47 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Well thats election interference

[–] tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah that's the point.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 13 points 2 weeks ago

remember, every accusation is a confession.

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[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you smell that??

Fear. Fear and shit. Someone's diaper needs changed.

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[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Here it is Americans. Its time to put that love of liberty and freedom to the test. Or are you all going to sleep meme your way through a fascist power grab.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Kinda seems like we already did.

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[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 36 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Oregon has ballot drop off places and don't go through the USPS. Get fucked Donny.

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[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 36 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

LMAO. If the dems did this, the maga cunts would be like "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!" but daddy dumpy does it, and they're probably rejoicing.

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[–] BaldProphet@piefed.social 32 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I got banned on Reddit for saying that this is a torch and pitchfork moment.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I just instructed the president to lick my balls. I don’t think he will though.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 27 points 2 weeks ago

Extremely seditious, and absolutely disqualifying all on its own under 14A3

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My suggestion for anyone voting in the US. Vote early in person if possible. If you are going to vote by mail, do it ASAP.

That's the best way to get your ballot counted, which is the most important thing right now.

The worst time to vote is election day. Avoid that at all costs.

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Authoritarianism is an admission of abject weakness.

White supremacists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But seriously, how is that supposed to work? Is the USPS supposed to open all the envelopes and determine if the voters are registered?

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

They just seize everything by default. They'll get back to you later about which ones are illegal.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Is it legal to say "we need a revolution to overthrow Trump, and fast"?

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[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's not leaving in 4 years.

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[–] eli@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

That's cool, I'll just bring all dozen ballots from my family to the local registrar office drop off. No USPS involved.

Thanks for the warning Trump!

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What the fuck.

Also, what's with this federal voter list nonsense? There's already a fucking voter registry.

[–] zarkony@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Elections are run by each state, including registration. That means when they want to fuck with the registry they have to do it in a state by state basis, making specific lawsuits that target that state's system. They want to make it federal so they can just drop whoever they want from the registry without having to go through state officials.

Besides being a blatant attempt to enable widespread disenfranchisement, it is also highly unconstitutional. The states run elections, following regulations set by Congress. The executive branch should have no power here, and the executive order should be struck down immediately, but who fucking knows at this point.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

and the executive order should be struck down immediately, but who fucking knows at this point.

1: The executive order is blocked by a federal court.

2: Supreme Court issues a stay on that block, allowing the EO to continue until the Supreme Court is able to review it.

3: Supreme Court slow-walks their review of it, delaying until after the election.

4: Supreme Court 'does the right thing' and decides it's unconstitutional ... after the election, once it's too late.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Donny needs to fuck off and not be alive.

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What's that!!? The fat orange child rapist who tried to incite an insurrection a few years ago is now trying to fix and fuck the up in other ways?
Well well well, what a complete and utter shock. If only there was a way for america to have seen this coming...

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