There's no way they want to eliminate bot traffic, it would kill 2/3rds of their traffic instantly. So this just means, "bots that aren't paying us."
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Reddit, very famously, used bot traffic at its inception to create the illusion of a community big enough to compete with Digg.
It was the OG "fake it till you make it" business.
As the company implements an increasingly draconian "ban every account that looks at me sideways" admin policy, I'm not sure if "2/3rds of the traiffc" isn't lowballing it. There are entire threads - from initial post to bullshit bottom comment - that get created by bot traffic on the modern site. It's a full blown hall of mirrors over there.
OG “fake it till you make it” business.
Feels like 99% of "social" network startups. The dead Internet theory started before the LLM craze.
Goes back to email. Easier to create a machine that churns out digital messages than find humans to do the work manually. So you get increasing loads of spam and gibberish, attempting to out-shout one another in a digital space with no bureaucratic regulation or material limits.
That said, one thing that made early social media like Facebook and MySpace and Livejournal appear valuable was the degree of human interaction. What's more, the interpersonal networks that formed between verified humans gave enormous value to communications across the platform.
Facebook did a pretty good job, early on, of limiting who could join based on authentication through college admin offices. MySpace had a large cohort of real human artists producing real human music, which attracted a real human following. Livejournal predated a lot of advertisement-by-blogging. After the Dot-Com bubble burst, this is where you could see green shoots of economic value in a digital space.
We've demolished all that chasing fictitious capital. How valuable it was in practice is debatable, of course. But it's all gone now.
The dead internet isn't a theory on Reddit. It's a reality there. Almost all traffic is
I read somewhere that it's estimated that reddit is 90% bots in the comments, and we already know 99% of front page context is from bots accounts.
If not already, I assume they’ll offer a for-fee API for bots.
So the entire point of reddit, the anonymity, is to be thrown out the fucking window lmao
Today everyone throws their principles out the window. Such is the present(
Requiring face ID AFTER genAI has become great at generating faces is certainly a decision
I'm a new lemmy user because of this
Welcome! It's WAY quieter over here because it's mostly people, not bots.
in order to crack down on ~~AI~~ unprofitable bots
I'm sure they'll have no issues allowing bots that align with their interests
Im sure the website that sold userdata to every single AI company to train their models on wouldn't ever even think of selling the faces of every one of its users to a company to train its AI face generator on.
Or that the website which accidentally admitted "the most reddit addicted city" is an air force base that hosts their online counterintelligence teams... Where was I going with this? Hmm must be nothing.
I made the switch to Lemmy today, feels old school kind of good.
Reddit is not only allowing for bots to run rampant, but also it’s managed by the Epstein class and their supporters.
BREAKING NEWS! Reddit figured out how to make their platform even shittier
So when is this happening, so we can mentally and logistically prepare for the next influx of new users into the fediverse?
Since when is Polymarket's Twitter account a reliable source of information?
Since when is Polymarket’s Twitter account a reliable source of information?
I can't comment on that specifically, but it was reported by pcmag and others
The real problem was third party clients I swear
It took a lot of customer abuse to break Reddit's stranglehold, but they are perilously close to a Digg like migration off their platform. Spez can take a hike into bankruptcy.
Lemmyflation is real
Watch /r/politics posts go from 22k upvotes to 3k upvotes overnight.
a big reason people won’t come to lemmy is the content is a political echo chamber and defederation is confusing as a concept to most people. i agree with most political opinions i see on here, but it’s kind of annoying to just see politics every time i open the app. maybe i just need to get better at tuning my feed, but most of the popular subs are political in some way.
politics is at lemmy's core, it was literally created by communists & socialists to serve as an online community for leftists; not rightists like liberals or conservatives.
Plus...there is a LOT to talk about these days, and most sane takes have been effectively banned from all large platforms lmao, with people helping all this along by voluntarily censoring the DUMBEST FUCKING WORDS in their memes, even, just to further their own reach within those shit holes.
So. Yeah, Lemmy be political.
Inb4 bots pass this and my face is rejected
I mean, requiring FaceID is a horrible idea, but there maybe might be a better alternative (I'm talking about the general idea of a "proof of humanity" online, not specifically using this solution).
The fact of the matter is that bots are a massive issue online. When russia got sanctioned and cut off from the western Internet, r/Conservative went radio silent for a couple of days - until they figured out how to VPN through the Netherlands. There are whole communities where bots discuss bot-posted content. And I have no doubt in my mind that it will also happen on Lemmy as soon as there's even a hint of profit* to be found.
* "profit" not as in "monetary gain", but as "any kind of gain, be it money, influence, propaganda, chaos", etc., etc.
I don't care, because reddit, but this makes me wonder if you can just have an AI generate a generic face and feed that in.
It's obviously not about bots. Isn't spez friendly with Peter Thiel?
My laptop’s TPM requires a pint of blood to allow booting to an OS. Two pints if it’s Linux.
Yea I prefer to get my Reddit news from a gambling site that facilitates bets on human lives.
I used to assume most of the bots belonged to Reddit. I still do, too.
Lemme get this straight
foster a website that encourages engagement instead of real human interaction bots flood the website to farm engagement with months and years-old reposts obliterate your API support, causing an exodus of users that use 3rd party apps slowly hemorrhage users while going IPO with your bot site now mandate id checks so we can weed out the bots that made your IPO look so good
Genius play by Spez. (/s)
More lowkey polymarket advertisements.
Why is it the only place I see polymarket is on Lemmy screenshots?
If the massive waves of permabans they have been doing for anti-trumpers weren't enough, this should kill the website entirely.
I'm glad they violated my account for a non violation and denied my appeal in the first week of opening a new account then. They aren't trying to make their moderation believable, I'm persona non grata for whatever reasons, to appease the administration I presume.
Fuck them, glad I stayed off. I kind of need the help on some stuff though, there just aren't enough people or communities on here yet.
I see the rationale, dead internet theory and all. But I 100% believe that if this happened, Reddit would form a partnership with the US government or oil companies to put bots on their platform and spread misinformation.
