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Reddit CEO says facial verification may be introduced. Ostensibly to prevent bots.

But we all know how dangerous this can be. But most likely Reddit users will just accept it.

Although they have a great free analogue right under their noses - Lemmy. Which is many times better than its competitor.

I wish more people would discover Lemmy, but that's unlikely.

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[–] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 165 points 1 month ago (6 children)

There's no way they want to eliminate bot traffic, it would kill 2/3rds of their traffic instantly. So this just means, "bots that aren't paying us."

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Reddit, very famously, used bot traffic at its inception to create the illusion of a community big enough to compete with Digg.

It was the OG "fake it till you make it" business.

As the company implements an increasingly draconian "ban every account that looks at me sideways" admin policy, I'm not sure if "2/3rds of the traiffc" isn't lowballing it. There are entire threads - from initial post to bullshit bottom comment - that get created by bot traffic on the modern site. It's a full blown hall of mirrors over there.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

OG “fake it till you make it” business.

Feels like 99% of "social" network startups. The dead Internet theory started before the LLM craze.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Goes back to email. Easier to create a machine that churns out digital messages than find humans to do the work manually. So you get increasing loads of spam and gibberish, attempting to out-shout one another in a digital space with no bureaucratic regulation or material limits.

That said, one thing that made early social media like Facebook and MySpace and Livejournal appear valuable was the degree of human interaction. What's more, the interpersonal networks that formed between verified humans gave enormous value to communications across the platform.

Facebook did a pretty good job, early on, of limiting who could join based on authentication through college admin offices. MySpace had a large cohort of real human artists producing real human music, which attracted a real human following. Livejournal predated a lot of advertisement-by-blogging. After the Dot-Com bubble burst, this is where you could see green shoots of economic value in a digital space.

We've demolished all that chasing fictitious capital. How valuable it was in practice is debatable, of course. But it's all gone now.

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[–] kamayatu24@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

The dead internet isn't a theory on Reddit. It's a reality there. Almost all traffic is 

[–] krisevol@lemmus.org 10 points 1 month ago

I read somewhere that it's estimated that reddit is 90% bots in the comments, and we already know 99% of front page context is from bots accounts.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

If not already, I assume they’ll offer a for-fee API for bots.

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 month ago (25 children)
[–] low@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago (6 children)

You have to pick a server.

I promise you, that's why

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[–] SattaRIP@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 month ago (5 children)

So the entire point of reddit, the anonymity, is to be thrown out the fucking window lmao

[–] kamayatu24@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Today everyone throws their principles out the window. Such is the present(

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Requiring face ID AFTER genAI has become great at generating faces is certainly a decision

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No one ever accused reddit of making good decisions.

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[–] mwdc1039@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm a new lemmy user because of this

[–] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Welcome! It's WAY quieter over here because it's mostly people, not bots.

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

in order to crack down on ~~AI~~ unprofitable bots

I'm sure they'll have no issues allowing bots that align with their interests

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Im sure the website that sold userdata to every single AI company to train their models on wouldn't ever even think of selling the faces of every one of its users to a company to train its AI face generator on.

Or that the website which accidentally admitted "the most reddit addicted city" is an air force base that hosts their online counterintelligence teams... Where was I going with this? Hmm must be nothing.

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[–] Ashrakal@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I made the switch to Lemmy today, feels old school kind of good.

Reddit is not only allowing for bots to run rampant, but also it’s managed by the Epstein class and their supporters.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

BREAKING NEWS! Reddit figured out how to make their platform even shittier

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So when is this happening, so we can mentally and logistically prepare for the next influx of new users into the fediverse?

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[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Since when is Polymarket's Twitter account a reliable source of information?

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago

Since when is Polymarket’s Twitter account a reliable source of information?

I can't comment on that specifically, but it was reported by pcmag and others

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago

The real problem was third party clients I swear

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It took a lot of customer abuse to break Reddit's stranglehold, but they are perilously close to a Digg like migration off their platform. Spez can take a hike into bankruptcy.

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[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

Lemmyflation is real

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 18 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Do it. I can't wait for it.

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[–] gurty@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Watch /r/politics posts go from 22k upvotes to 3k upvotes overnight.

[–] bluejayway@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

a big reason people won’t come to lemmy is the content is a political echo chamber and defederation is confusing as a concept to most people. i agree with most political opinions i see on here, but it’s kind of annoying to just see politics every time i open the app. maybe i just need to get better at tuning my feed, but most of the popular subs are political in some way.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

politics is at lemmy's core, it was literally created by communists & socialists to serve as an online community for leftists; not rightists like liberals or conservatives.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Plus...there is a LOT to talk about these days, and most sane takes have been effectively banned from all large platforms lmao, with people helping all this along by voluntarily censoring the DUMBEST FUCKING WORDS in their memes, even, just to further their own reach within those shit holes.

So. Yeah, Lemmy be political.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 14 points 1 month ago

Inb4 bots pass this and my face is rejected

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 month ago (26 children)

I mean, requiring FaceID is a horrible idea, but there maybe might be a better alternative (I'm talking about the general idea of a "proof of humanity" online, not specifically using this solution).

The fact of the matter is that bots are a massive issue online. When russia got sanctioned and cut off from the western Internet, r/Conservative went radio silent for a couple of days - until they figured out how to VPN through the Netherlands. There are whole communities where bots discuss bot-posted content. And I have no doubt in my mind that it will also happen on Lemmy as soon as there's even a hint of profit* to be found.

* "profit" not as in "monetary gain", but as "any kind of gain, be it money, influence, propaganda, chaos", etc., etc.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I don't care, because reddit, but this makes me wonder if you can just have an AI generate a generic face and feed that in.

It's obviously not about bots. Isn't spez friendly with Peter Thiel?

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[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

get ready for an influx of users to Lemmy I guess.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My laptop’s TPM requires a pint of blood to allow booting to an OS. Two pints if it’s Linux.

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[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yea I prefer to get my Reddit news from a gambling site that facilitates bets on human lives.

[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I used to assume most of the bots belonged to Reddit. I still do, too.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Goodbye 99% of reddit users.

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[–] marighost@piefed.social 10 points 1 month ago

Lemme get this straight

foster a website that encourages engagement instead of real human interaction bots flood the website to farm engagement with months and years-old reposts obliterate your API support, causing an exodus of users that use 3rd party apps slowly hemorrhage users while going IPO with your bot site now mandate id checks so we can weed out the bots that made your IPO look so good

Genius play by Spez. (/s)

[–] MortUS@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More lowkey polymarket advertisements.

Why is it the only place I see polymarket is on Lemmy screenshots?

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

If the massive waves of permabans they have been doing for anti-trumpers weren't enough, this should kill the website entirely.

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[–] Lagviper@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This data surely goes straight to Palentir

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm glad they violated my account for a non violation and denied my appeal in the first week of opening a new account then. They aren't trying to make their moderation believable, I'm persona non grata for whatever reasons, to appease the administration I presume.

Fuck them, glad I stayed off. I kind of need the help on some stuff though, there just aren't enough people or communities on here yet.

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[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I see the rationale, dead internet theory and all. But I 100% believe that if this happened, Reddit would form a partnership with the US government or oil companies to put bots on their platform and spread misinformation.

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