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Star Trek's groundbreaking gay Klingon is battling hate in the sci-fi fandom - LGBTQ Nation (www.lgbtqnation.com)
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[–] homes@piefed.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

I’m still pretty conflicted here. Not only was the character pretty inconsistent (like all of the characters on the show), but I always imagined that a gay Klingon character (especially one in the 32nd century) wouldn’t really much differently than any other Klingon character. Never imagined that homosexuality in Klingon society would be treated much differently or that gay Klingons would act much differently than other Klingons.

The fact that the show’s writers and producers made such a big deal about it— indeed, that they made so much of the shows social interactions seem as if they were taking place today rather than in a more idealistic future, really rubbed me the wrong way.

And, as a gay man, I find the depiction of the gay character as weak, timid, and frightened - especially when that species is known for being strong, brave, and heroic - to be pretty insulting.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

You've gone well across the line below of Rule 1 which would have earned a warning and maybe a day ban. But you've also been using @Bklyn@piefed.social to upvote yourself, an account that has had zero activity (posting or voting) since the creation of yours. Nah. Vote Manipulation is a redditor thing. Not welcome here.

[–] Dazharion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

He wasn't treated differently for being gay. He was treated differently because he wanted to be a healer and an explorer. His being gay wasn't even addressed until multiple episodes after the episodes showing his family treating him differently. They're not connected at all. Same thing with the fact that he's different than most klingons in being more passive and peaceful. Nothing to do with being gay because they were addressed in completely different episodes. In fact, the show never bluntly addressed the fact that he was gay. He just flirted with a dude and then started dating a guy. That seems pretty future utopian accepting to me for literally no one to point it out.

The show's writers and producers didn't make a big deal about it.

indeed, that they made so much of the shows social interactions seem as if they were taking place today rather than in a more idealistic future, really rubbed me the wrong way.

Like what?

Also slightly confused on saying "Conflicted" at the start and then saying nothing positive.

[–] homes@piefed.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You massively misunderstood what I said. I didn’t say he was being treated differently by other characters in the show, he was being treated differently by the writers and the producers in the show by being written as a weak, timid, frightened character, rather than how every other Klingon in the show and every other Star Trek show and every other Star Trek movie has ever been written. As strong, aggressive, etc.

And it had nothing to do with this job or is interests either. And many store trek shows in the past, we have seen Klingon’s that have non-typical Klingon jobs. Klingon to healers, Klingon, who are lawyers, etc. But they still act like Klingons. And those episodes where they showed up, they very much do make a big deal about that. Each and every time.

Like what?

Like everything I just explained, and you apparently ignored

[–] Dazharion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

He's not weak, he's not timid and he's not frightened though. Do you have any examples of such behavior? Because the only thing he has ever demonstrated anxiety on is public speaking and in worrying his family would not accept him because he doesn't want to be a warrior. In every other moment in the series he has taken pretty decisive action. I cannot think of a single moment in the series, outside of the public speaking bit alone, where he came off as weak, timid or frightened.

I did not ignore what you said. It simply did not make sense to me.