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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/44781501

GrapheneOS will remain usable by anyone around the world without requiring personal information, identification or an account. GrapheneOS and our services will remain available internationally. If GrapheneOS devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it.

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[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 50 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck yeah Graphene.

[–] RiQuY@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 weeks ago

That's the bare minimum I expect from them.

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Now we just need to see how different distros handle it

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Just saw a report yesterday that systemd will implement age verification, meaning it might not be up to the distros.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Might not be up to the distros?

Most distros already have a non-systemd variant out there.

And systemd is also open source; if age verification is baked in, people can just modify it to always return a positive result.

[–] xvertigox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Time to replace systemd, I guess.

[–] ramenu@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Easiest solution is to just fork it rather than replacing it entirely

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

nah, patch it out if it becomes an issue (x doubt)

[–] TrippinMallard@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

May go the Gentoo route. majority of my friends use that as their primary os. peer pressure + compiling your OS is fun

I just did that yesterday, definitely a more involved setup but I really like it so far. I wanted to ditch systemd for a few reasons but this recent news finally gave me the motivation.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

Its just storing a date you tell it is your birthday. Nothing more than an age gate that can easily be lied to.

Honestly just have your distro zero accounts out to 00:00:00-1970-01-01 by default.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Time to go back to init.d

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

No, they won't. They added an age field to the user profile, right next to name, etc. It's there in case systems want to use it.

[–] KindnessInfinity@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

i personally think people who maintain distros outside of these countries/regions will just ignore these requirements

[–] kamayatu24@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone says so. And then I change the rules

[–] DannyMac@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

What are they going to do when these states hand over a list of violations at $7,500 per violation?

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are the devs even in a jurisdiction where that matters? Given they're working on a project specifically focused on privacy and security, even if they are in such a jurisdiction, are they actually traceable, or have they been obfuscating their identity with tools like Tor? It might not be enforceable.

[–] ijhoo@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

there is a company behind, so they can be identified... but, the foundation is in Canada, so probably California law doesn't apply to them. unless they start to sell their products in California. not a lawyer so I don't know for sure how those things work...

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, yeah, then they can't be touched unless Canada passes something stupid, too. Which in the general global political climate... Isn't impossible. But they may just geoblock California and other jurisdictions with similar laws so they can have plausible deniability. Of course, users could circumvent that entirely a dozen different ways, especially those technically inclined enough to install GrapheneOS, so I'm not sure how much it would really hurt them.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

unless they start to sell their products in California

Good thing it's free software

[–] KindnessInfinity@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

It'd lilely be to OEM selling the phones in the state, since GrapheneOS is run in a country with different laws.

[–] ki9@lemmy.gf4.pw 1 points 2 weeks ago

Hopefully, what 4chan did.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c624330lg1ko

Just checked, Graphene is a registered non-profit in Canada.

[–] root@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Dont forget to donate your open source…