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“We believe the prerequisite for meaningful diplomacy and real peace is a stronger Ukraine, capable of deterring and defending against any future aggression,” Blinken said in a speech in Finland, which recently became NATO’s newest member and shares a long border with Russia.

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[–] nothendev@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (15 children)

Do I understand it correctly, that "total withdrawal" is giving back the regions that agreed to be with Russia, alongside getting the troops back?

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[–] baronvonj@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hard agree with Blinken here.

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[–] juergen_hubert@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Imperialism is bad even when it's not the USA doing it.

Ukraine absolutely deserves our support in this war.

[–] calcifer@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bunch of people keep talking about how the US shouldn't broker peace deals and China should. Hypocrisy at its finest.

The fact is, having a third party nation recommendation for peace or no peace is a standard for centuries, and if that nation is a global hegemony with nuclear weapons, then it makes sense.

[–] X77@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

People want the war could end, but US won't let it. What hypocrisy?

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[–] Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Ha, the local tankies are starting to find out that they're outnumbered by reddit-fuges. Still, I believe that barring a negotiated peace, the war will continue for many, many years. The alternatives are either Russian withdraw and/or regime change or Ukrainian collapse, and neither seem likely in the near future. Even Kissinger, which is as blood-thirsty as they come, has suggested a negotiated peace, and it's hard to imagine a negotiation that doesn't concede something to Russia. The question isn't a moral one. The deaths will continue to pile up until negotiation begins.

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[–] Zagaroth@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (35 children)

Supporting Ukraine is the only U.S. military action since WW2 that I can truly support. Even our action in response to 9/11 was fucked up.

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[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Warmonger. Don't the Ukrainians get a say in whether the US can sacrifice so many people for US goals?

[–] Shrike502@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Wait, I thought Ukraine was a sovereign, independent state. That's what the media been screeching about for over a year. Now it is saying USA is deciding their foreign policy?

Funny that

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