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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

“We believe the prerequisite for meaningful diplomacy and real peace is a stronger Ukraine, capable of deterring and defending against any future aggression,” Blinken said in a speech in Finland, which recently became NATO’s newest member and shares a long border with Russia.

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[-] calcifer@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Bunch of people keep talking about how the US shouldn't broker peace deals and China should. Hypocrisy at its finest.

The fact is, having a third party nation recommendation for peace or no peace is a standard for centuries, and if that nation is a global hegemony with nuclear weapons, then it makes sense.

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[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Why does the United States get absolutely any say in a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia, there meddling stopped the last peace deals, and this is really none of their buisness. Let Ukraine set there terms and negotiate for themselves.

[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

While I am at it, The PRC has been trying for months to broker peace and has Russia at the table, why doesn't the US let Ukraine go to the table and negotiate, The United States has no right to be king of the world and has no right to be setting any terms for these talks.

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[-] baronvonj@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Hard agree with Blinken here.

[-] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

honestly, i can't see how any reasonable person wouldn't.

edit: russia has proven, repeatedly, that they don't honor their agreements. the only way that they won't invade again is if they're kicked out and if Ukraine has a modern military fully capable of kicking russia's ass if it tries again.

[-] juergen_hubert@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Imperialism is bad even when it's not the USA doing it.

Ukraine absolutely deserves our support in this war.

[-] Cragsand@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It's actually upsetting to read some people defend an illegal war of aggression in this thread. Just practice the golden rule for a change and imagine yourself being in the same situation. What if it was your country being invaded? Would you take up arms to defend your family, your friends, your neighbors? The bombs are dropping everywhere, and you have to hide in basements to prevent their terror attacks from taking away all that you hold dear.

Of course a country being invaded has the right to defend themselves and the right to fight back. The aggressors could end this war immediately but they wont because their leader is an insular autocrat. Isolating himself and giving orders without considering the best for the rest of the world. Devaluing human life from on top of a pedestal. This is the danger what happens when one single individual gains too much power and the rest of the world needs to be unanimously against it regardless of blind idealism.

[-] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I would flee from the front line and I recommend everybody else do the same. Why get involved when states fight over their sphere of influence? Ukraine isn't a state worth giving your life for. US imperial hegemony (a major reason for this conflict) should not be supported. They will abuse any support given to further their own goals and throw you (or anyone) under the bus when convenient.

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[-] nothendev@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Do I understand it correctly, that "total withdrawal" is giving back the regions that agreed to be with Russia, alongside getting the troops back?

[-] Rhabuko@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

You mean that separatist regions that got installed by Russia and would already have lost without the Russian troops intervention in 2014 - 2015? That regions that have a government of brutal former criminals (that brutally oppressed every opposition)? Yes those too. If the people really want to be part of Russia, they can ask for a fair referendum with international observers after Russia fucked off.

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