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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I hope the penalties for cop corruption in China are the same as the ones for politicians.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

All cops are bad actually.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Cops exist to protect the ruling class of a given society. In the west, that class is the capitalist class. In socialism, that class is the working classes. Until we get to classless society, police in socialism serve a necessary role that must be accountable to the people.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The ruling class in China is not the working class.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago

Public ownership is the principal aspect of China's economy, and capitalists are held on a tight leash to focus on developing the productive forces. The large firms and key industries in China are publicly owned, it's only the small and medium firms that are private.

The form of democracy and the mode of production in China ensures that there is a connection between the people and the state. Policies like the mass line are in place to ensure this direct connection remains. This is why over 90% of the Chinese population supports the government, and why they have such strong perceptions around democracy:

The Chinese political system is based on whole-process people's democracy, a form of consultative democracy. The local government is directly elected, and then these governments elect people to higher rungs, meaning any candidate at the top level must have worked their way up from the bottom and directly proved themselves. Moreover, the economy in the PRC is socialist, with public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy. Combining this consultative, ground-up democracy with top-down economic planning is the key to China's success.

I highly recommend Roland Boer's Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance. Socialist democracy has been imperfect, but has gone through a number of changes and adaptations over the years as we've learned more from testing theory to practice. Boer goes over the history behind socialist democracy in this textbook.

[–] Marasenna@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Looking forward to coming back in a bit and reading some of the lib-outs in the comment section.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago

Watering my libs

[–] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Marasenna@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

lol

That sure didn't take long.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

i sometimes wonder if i sounded like them before i discovered lemmy.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

inb4 but muh bourne supremacy

[–] Cruel@programming.dev 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Lol, another "China good, America bad" post. Classic.

Always followed up with accusations of American/Western indoctrination if you disagree. Bonus points for sinophobia accusation if you say anything bad about China. πŸ₯±

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

These kinds of maximalist statements you're making reek of the conservative "I got kicked out just for having a different opinion!"

Like yeah actually if the "anything bad" you say is the same Epstein empire propaganda bullshit meant to justify bombing shitloads of people -like they're doing right now- then those with a mind and soul will react poorly to that.

[–] geoff@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any informed opinions on whether Chinese people are in general more or less racist than Americans?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (26 children)

🀷 There’s no universal, coherent definition for racism, and if there were, we’d still have to run two very large, expensive research/polling projects. Also these are extremely large populations (on extremely large territories), neither of which is monolithic. Also, how racist a people are doesn’t necessarily align with how racist a state is. In an online forum, it’s the kind of question that mostly just exposes some people’s existing prejudices.

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