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I recently saw this news on the technology community https://lemmy.world/post/44224445 and got very disappointed with the way things are going with this browser.

I started using it to do my part against the chromium monopoly, but Mozilla is making too many bad decisions in my opinion.

I've heard about forks like Librewolf and Waterfox.

Which alternatives would you recommend? Do you use any of them? What are your thoughts on them?

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[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago
[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

I like waterfox. I felt librewolf was a little too paranoid with its security permissions for convenient use and waterfox strikes a good balance in my opinion between what firefox is doing and what librewolf is doing.

[–] angrywaffle@piefed.social 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Guys, instead of a popularity contest, it'd be more productive if we listed the reasons for choosing one or another.

I like that idea, it provides information and gives you something to research as well. IDK shit about shit though so I'm going to keep my mouth shut lol.

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 33 points 2 days ago

LibreWolf. It works 😬

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Firefox has a no ai toggle, you could just use that

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Yes yes, trust the AI peddlers to keep their promises, that's always went well.

/Sarcasm

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

A browser fork is generally less secure, because they're slower to get security updates. Firefox gives you the option to remove all the AI and that's a better approach.

Alternatively you could switch to Firefox ESR, which is basically just better in every way.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Desktop - Librewolf

Android - Ironfox

[–] Fokeu@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago

I use librewolf

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Ironfox on mobile.

[–] ColorfulCookie@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

Zen Browser, Firefox under the hood but soooo many incredibly nice features

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A lot of people saying Fennec is good on Android. The line at the bottom is a bit of a turn off, isn't it?

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Most Firefox forks still have support for Mozilla account sync and the extension malware blacklist, as those are useful features to have. But they do share info with Mozilla.

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Use IronFox (forked from DivestOS Mull Browser) if you want a private FOSS firefox-based browser on Android. Note that it still lacks per-site isolation like every other FF based browser on Android, but this seems to be the most harden option available.

[–] airikr@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago
[–] Anon764967@lemmy.org 3 points 2 days ago

I recommend Librewolf for logging in and using web apps, and Mullvad for one-time use. If security is your top priority, Trivalent is also a good option.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Desktop: librewolf. I've not found anything remotely comparable for Android.

[–] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I just use Fennec on android

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do you feel about IronFox?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorry I deleted my post because I was mistaken. I haven't tried it.

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Worth a shot, recommended by several in the comments here as well.

[–] mrnobody@reddthat.com 6 points 2 days ago

Waterfox is a great all-around platform for desktop and mobile.

[–] Bhaelfur@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I've been using Waterfox. I've been meaning to look into Zen again.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I've been using Zen lately. It's good, but it's also pretty different. It takes some getting used to. I like it because the interface is minimal and out of the way. It keeps your browser mostly just showing the content on the web page, instead of wasting space with the taskbar that's only needed occasionally. It's still all available, just hidden away until needed.

[–] Pacrat173@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

LibreWolf my beloved browser

[–] imacatnotaman@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

It's great. The only thing stopping my from using it full time is that no Firefox-based browsers work with the web office editor within my NextCloud instance.

[–] torgeros@norden.social 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] awake@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does Zen allow for extensions (mainly asking for ublock origin and something comparable to the multi containers on Firefox)

[–] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago
[–] Chaser@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

At the moment I just stick with firefox, as long as I can disable all the ai and telemetry bs. However in a few years Ladybird could be an alternative. They're developing a whole new browser including the engine from scratch. Looks promising to me.

https://ladybird.org/

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

there's always been a strong undercurrent of tech "libertarians" who refuse to understand that their "neutrality" is in service to fascists and pointing this fact out loud makes you the problem.

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

men like kling were one of the reasons why i stopped being a software engineer; they're so incredibly common in the field and so highly rewarded by it that it's clear that the field's leaders are aligned with them.

it makes me wonder what i'll be doing once firefox is no longer a thing.

[–] Cekan14@lemmy.org 1 points 1 day ago

I've discarded it after their AI use to switch to Rust

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I've been using Waterfox for a year or so, after I got tired of the broken update process for Librewolf on MacOS. No regrets.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Waterfox on Mobile has been working well for me so far.

[–] splendid9583@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago
[–] unknowablenight@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

Librewolf, Librewolf all the way. It's a bit heavy-duty with the privacy, but that can be toned down in settings.

I highly recommend Edge...bwahahaha...lightening the mood.

[–] weaselsrippedmyflesh@lemmy.pt 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

On desktop, I use the Mullvad Browser and I'm pretty comfortable with it, as it's at least on par with Librewolf (which is pretty good), privacy-wise, I think. On mobile, I use IronFox through the Accrescent store, and I used to use a hardened version of Fennec, as well.

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[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On Linux, I use Waterfox. On Android, I use Fennec. Both much lighter than Firefox, and Waterfox specifically doesn't need to be installed on Linux (my biggest concern in Linux - most is installed to the system), and the dev seems to be slowly separating Waterfox from the Firefox base, instead of keeping it as a stripped down Firefox. On the privacy side of things, not knowledgeable enough myself to audit them, but haven't seen any scandals on either yet.

[–] farting_gorilla@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I just switched to Librewolf from Firefox, would you recommend moving to Waterfox instead ?

[–] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I use Zen on desktop, Fennec on Android. I also tried Librewolf/ Ironfox combo.

[–] ptt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago
  • Computer: Librewolf + Helium
  • Mobile: Ironfox + Cromite
[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

lynx in the terminal or eww on emacs

[–] efscher@lemmit.nyc.what.if.ua 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've been using Floorp for the past 6 months. No complaints.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

seamonkey but it's not compatible with a lot of websites these days sadly. hopefully they'll catch up soon.

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