We were never gonna get the carbon thing under control.
Showerthoughts
A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.
Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:
- Both “200” and “160” are 2 minutes in microwave math
- When you’re a kid, you don’t realize you’re also watching your mom and dad grow up.
- More dreams have been destroyed by alarm clocks than anything else
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If you made it this far, showerthoughts is accepting new mods. This community is generally tame so its not a lot of work, but having a few more mods would help reports get addressed a little sooner.
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Not while we still allow psychopaths to be in control.
Not while we still allow them to be alive.
as A physics channel person as said, countries have largely abandoned global climate change for a while now. they are mostly going YOLO with oil now. plus there are subtle acts of undermining/sabotaging environmental activism for years, like funding "carbon footprint companies" so they dont have to reduce thier emissions, and funding "eco-activists" you hear in the news defacing public properties to incite ire against protestors.(mona lisa, gluing yourself to cars,,,etc)
Some science channels were called out for promoting these companies as a way of reducing your carbon footprint, luckily they stopped once they found out.
Correct. Oligarchs are responsible for the murder of billions of humans. Absurd, disgusting, shameful... yet, wholly predictable.
We'll combat global warming with nuclear winter! 🙃
Throw another hotdog on the uranium! It’s almost time for The President’s Daily Truthcast.
Oh boy, I get to post my doom call!
If you live for another 50 years, you WILL witness the collapse of civilization. We have blown past every single warming-limit goal, and are not only continuing to warm the planet but are doing it at an accelerating pace.
Its getting warmer, and its getting warmer FASTER.
Very soon the major breadbaskets of the world will no longer be able to grow crops. As soon as the grain agricultural industry collapses, billions, with a B, will starve.
We are witnessing the end of modern civilization, which will end just as fast as it arrived.
Doomerism like this is not healthy. Things are dire and will get worse for a long time, but the idea that civilisation is guaranteed to collapse is the kind of doom propaganda that fuels inaction. There is so much we can do, and the outcome for future generations better with every positive step we take. What we do does matter, and there's a good chance our core societies will still be going strong in 50 years.
A ray of hope: Oil being expensive makes solar more attractive. Having an EV and home solar insulated my family against the daily hike in the price of a gallon of gas.
We are witnessing the end of modern civilization, which will end just as fast as it arrived.
So it'll take 10,000 years?
Civilizations and cultures survive the loss of >30% of their population all the time. The black death, the columbian disease exchange, the mongol empire, the collapse of the western roman empire, etc.. Losing billions of people will be terrible, of course, but the billions that survive will still exist and work to survive, and they will be people worth fighting for.
Current food production is over 10 times what is necessary to feed everyone on the planet, with the vast majority of it being wasted on the meat and dairy industry that we can just stop. Food forests require more labor per calorie but are far more resilient to climate change and require far less land area, allowing the remaining agricultural land to rewild and act as a carbon sink.
The AMOC (atlantic current) is "making Europe livable" by making it warmer. Helpfully, climate change will do the same. In pessimistic scenarios, Europe returns to the current average temperature after a decade or two. Again, yes, in this scenario >90% of current human habitation would probably have to be abandoned and human population may dip below one billion, but those hundreds of millions of people still deserve the best chance we can give them.
If our best efforts mean we can only keep a billion people alive, it would be worth it.
If our best efforts mean we can only keep a million people alive, it would be worth it.
If our best efforts mean we can only keep ten thousand people alive, it would be worth it.
Every kiloton of CO2 we stop the emission of is a life saved, and the vast majority are emitted in the US, Europe, and China. If you live in any of these regions, there is so much you can do.
We don't have the room for AI either and that's not stopping anyone.
Reducing population goes a long way towards helping though. It all depends on just how apocalyptic the world war is
Eh, a few old demented psychopaths armed with nuclear warheads? I'd wager to say pretty apocalyptic.
Bethesda this IS NOT what I wanted for Fallout 5
Presumably the impact would greatest if the population in areas with highest per capita usage were reduced first, right?
Well, then it's a good thing MAGA cancelled Climate Change, so we don't have to worry about it.

we are literally in so many ways, which is why i’m resorting to memeing
Hear me out. Depending on how massive the war is it could actually help on the long term.
At the end of the day less people equals less pollution.
Yes but just very few people make up the majority of pollution.
100% agree, but the worst side of the human condition is in control and they want to burn baby burn it all down.
Just for fun, look up how much the US army pollutes.
Blowing up oil production could be argued as carbon negative.
No. Complete opposite. Not just full emissions from the buring oil, but replacement oil "needs" to be dug up.
I disagree. That oil you are seeing burning is just a few days of normal production. So it would have gotten burnt regardless. If you take the broader view, disrupting global oil production will give renewable energies a much needed push. If your petrol gets too expensive, the electric car maybe looks better now. Using solar and wind looks better when fossil fuel prices are more expensive. And heating your home with a heat pump is currently much, much cheaper than using gas or oil. So this will give a push, if done correctly.
Some countries might even wake up and realize that it's better to produce their own energy from the sun shining on their own soil than being kind of a victim of whatever happens somewhere else in the world.
And just like carbon credits, they’ll just throw money at it to “offset” the carbon budget.
Nature bats last. Climate change is the real winner in all these wars.
...or AI.
Don't worry, nobody will be able to afford to drive, so that will offset it.
