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I mean I know western media outlets never tried to hide their bias, but this is like bingo night. Let's see how many hits we get:

Use of the word sweeping:

"China has approved a sweeping new law which claims to help promote "ethnic unity" - but critics say it will further erode the rights of minority groups."

Use of the word rubber-stamp:

"The law was approved on Thursday as the annual rubber-stamp parliamentary session drew to an end."

So-called expert using emotionally charged language:

"The law is consistent with a dramatic recent policy shift, to suppress the ethnic diversity formally recognised since 1949," Magnus Fiskesjö, an associate professor of anthropology at Cornell University said in a university report.

"The children of the next generation are now isolated and brutally forced to forget their own language and culture."

Again use of absolute language:

"The law was voted and passed on Thursday at the National People's Congress in Beijing, which has never rejected an item on its agenda."

Suspicious anonymous monk quotes:

When the BBC visited a monastery that had been at heart of Tibetan resistance in July last year, monks spoke of living under fear and intimidation.

"We Tibetans are denied basic human rights. The Chinese government continues to oppress and persecute us. It is not a government that serves the people," one of them told us.

Again some no-name "professor of government", lmao i mean truly bottom of the barrel:

"The Communist Party says it embraces different ethnicities. The country's constitution states that "each ethnicity has the right to use and develop their own language" and "have the right to self-rule".

But critics believe this new law will cement Xi's push toward assimilation.

"The law makes it clearer than ever that in Xi Jinping's PRC non-Han peoples must do more to integrate themselves with the Han majority, and above all else be loyal to Beijing," Allen Carlson, an associate professor of government at Cornell University said, referencing China by the initials of its official name.

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[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 5 points 21 hours ago
[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

the National People's Congress in Beijing, which has never rejected an item on its agenda

As well as being misleading (the NPC can change proposed laws to an unlimited degree as suits them, sometimes over the course of years, so why would you not eventually pass it). This line has been repeated at every media outlet. And 20 seconds of reading Wikipedia shows it's just.. objectively false.

in 2015, the NPC refused to pass a package of bills proposed by the State Council, insisting that each bill require a separate vote and revision process

The time for legislation can be as short as six months, or as long as 15 years for controversial legislation such as the Anti-Monopoly Law.

Weird how this democratically elected "rubber stamp" parliamentary body are constantly changing and rejecting laws as suits them under Xi's DICTATORSHIP. It's almost like China is actually just a parliamentary democracy with more sensible structures and incentives.


I'm also not sure how I feel about the languages thing. I can see the reasoning to do it, but I can also understand the fear of losing local languages (and the consequent value lost). BBC has zero right to talk about it though - the UK government ALSO requires that English be taught in all schools, and more prominent on all signs before Cornish, Welsh, Scottish or Irish Gaellic, etc, so labelling it as SCARY CHINA EVIL attitude is quite amazing hypocrisy.

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Remember that France stops every attempt to non-French languages teachable in state schools. So Breton cannot be taught to kids in Brittany unless it is a private school, when an attempt was made to work with Breton language schools the constitutional council said it violated the constitution. They do have bilingual state schools, but that is not teaching the language as far as I can tell.

A plan to integrate Diwan (and its immersion style) into the public school system was signed in May 2001 by the Minister of Education, Jack Lang, and several agreements were worked out with the French Education system during the spring and summer of 2001 concerning the nuts and bolts of putting all this into place.

Just as things were starting to jell for the budgeting of teachers and facilities to be fully in place for the opening of the Fall 2002 school year, the French government (Conseil d'Etat) suspended this agreement for public integration of Diwan. This was in part due to pressure from a federation of public school teacher and parent organizations who feel that the immersion system of Diwan "attacks the principle of equality and unity of the [French] Republic."

A sticking point for those who seem to confuse uniformity with unity of the French state is the French Constitution which states in Article 2 that "French is the language of the Republic." Diwan's immersion system of teaching through the Breton language appears to be against the French Constitution. This constitutional argument also blocks France's adoption of the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages. This Charter was signed by France in May 1999 but is yet to be ratified so that the meager protections it affords to languages like Breton can be put into place.

In a December 27, 2002, decision on this matter, the Constitutional Council clearly stated that the immersion style of teaching Breton is contrary to the Article 2 of the French Constitution. Here's how the Council states things: "The usage of a language other than French cannot be imposed on students in establishments of public education in the operation [life] of the establishment or in teaching subjects other than the language in question." This not only eliminates the use of Breton as the language for playground or cafeteria communication, but also as a language used to teach math, science or history-a restriction which could also impact regular public school bilingual programs where such subjects are taught through the medium of Breton.

It is the immersion system of using Breton as the medium for all activity at a school that is troublesome. Yet, it is this use of Breton for the life of the school that so effectively allows the youngest children (preschool and primary school) who do not come from Breton-speaking families to master the language and use it naturally. The whole point of enrolling one's child in a Diwan school is to get such immersion (which is chosen and not "imposed"). Thus any proposal for public school integration that compromises this is not acceptable to Diwan.

Diwan has proven that its pedagogical system is a success. The challenge for continued growth is financial. Many teacher's salaries are covered in a "contract" with the French State which puts Diwan in a "private school" category despite the fact that it charges no tuition and operates as a public institution open to anyone who wants to enroll. Whenever a new school is opened (and Diwan continues to grow each year) it must wait for five years before it can come under the "contract." Thus, there are currently over a dozen teachers whose salaries must be raised by fundraising. Because of its "private school" status, there have also been limits placed on the contribution of building space and public monies to support Diwan schools - no matter how willing and able a particular town and population may be to support a Diwan school. Thus, the financial challenges remain very high for Diwan to open new schools to meet the demand of parents and students.

Comrades, if you ever think you hate the French too much or even adequately, you don't. You can and should always hate them more. It is a cultural or at least linguistic genocide, and now that I think about it, probably these laws are the same basis that France uses to discriminate against "separatist" ideologies IE "Islamo-Communism" or whatever Macron called it.

https://icdbl.org/diwan.php?chapter=future

[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

BBC has zero right to talk about it though

Furthermore the BBC itself was used as a tool to teach the Queens English to places where there weren't enough fluent speakers. They strictly enforce not just language but very specific accents.

[–] AstroStelar@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Out of interest I read the rest of the draft but it's not that interesting. It repeats itself a lot by having multiple articles roughly say the same thing but for different facets of government (perhaps that's why it feels "sweeping" to Westerners). There's stuff about economic development, interethnic exchange and persecuting acts that threaten national unity.

Article 29 talks about people learning eachothers' culture and language and promoting that in cultural institutions, which was nice. Article 55 talks about creating "model areas" of interethnic unity; Article 56 stipulates a "National Unity and Progress Publicity Week" in September. Notably there are no changes to the governance of autonomous regions.

It reads more like a policy guideline or to-do list than a law that itself changes how the government functions.

This would be like freaking out that the US has ESL classes for immigrants.

[–] red_giant@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It makes sense that Chinese ethnic minorities should have a proficiency in Putonghua since that is a necessary skill for living in China, but it is an extra step to say that Chinese characters must be displayed more prominently when displayed in public. That is assimilationist and will likely promote ethnic disunity rather than unity.

Also the law explicitly states that “preserving minority languages” means digitizing and recording them so they are not lost to posterity. It explicitly states that maintaining them as living languages is not a goal. I think this is poor policy as well.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

It explicitly states that maintaining them as living languages is not a goal.

Oh, that's very sad.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Americans cannot imagine anything worse than being forced to learn a second language

[–] D61@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"China ~~mandates~~ sponsors Mandarin as a second language education for all its citizens."

[–] AstroStelar@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

https://hexbear.net/comment/6997708

任何组学校及其他教育机构以国家通用语言文字为基本的教育教学用语用字

Auto-translated: "All organizations, schools, and other educational institutions shall use the national common language and script as the basic language and script for education and teaching." In contrast to the current situation where minority schools often teach in the minority language.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So disappointing, tbh. It's a massive step backwards. I hope they at least keep teaching people their languages, even if it's not the general language of instruction.

[–] AstroStelar@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They will indeed still teach their native touch as a dedicated subject

A few years back the BBC liked to report on this exact thing causing protests in Tibet and Inner Mongolia, then it only pertained to high schools iirc. So either these were regional policies that are now being enshrined in national law or back then it was just an announcement and they're only now actually switching.

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[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Since Hexbear consists mostly of Leninists I'm sure we'll all be a bit critical of China for reneging typical Leninist policy on the national question (equal language rights) :^)

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

Don't let libs forget the complacency of the BBC in the Palestinian genocide. Smash it again and again, that they're echoing Zionist media that engages in genocide denial.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's possible that the law has something bad, but they don't explain this being anything more than mandating everyone be taught Mandarin, which is a good policy to have because as many people as possible in a country should have at least one language in common.

It mandates that all children should be taught Mandarin before kindergarten and up until the end of high school.

As-expressed, this is a good policy, but then the next sentence (of the two-sentence paragraph) says:

Previously students could study most of the curriculum in their native language such as Tibetan, Uyghur or Mongolian.

Which does not contradict the previous claim? Being taught a language is not the same as the rest of your schooling being taught in that or another language, unless they are complaining that classes teaching Mandarin will not exclusively be taught in e.g. the Uyghur language because it will need to use Mandarin in order to teach it, which is a bizarre and worthless complaint.

Also, even then they say "most of the curriculum," which should logically still be true unless "most" meant "a slim majority" and this is pushing it over, something they never explain, let alone substantiate.

"The children of the next generation are now isolated and brutally forced to forget their own language and culture."

This is never substantiated.

Beijing has long been accused of restricting the rights of minority ethnic groups in regions like Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia.

Accused by who? This is a great example of the passive voice actually being used for propagandistic purposes.

Aside from the UN in the Xinjiang case, the article just goes on to cite other reporting by the BBC, so I guess they mean "Beijing has long been accused by us"

Also OP, you left out another classic buzzword:

Authorities moved quickly to crackdown on what it saw as dissent.

[–] AstroStelar@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Being taught a language is not the same as the rest of your schooling being taught in that or another language

Alaskaball linked to the actual draft, which explicitly states that all schools should use Mandarin as the default language for teaching.

The thing is that this isn't new, a few years back the BBC liked to report on this exact thing causing protests in Tibet and Inner Mongolia. So either these were regional policies being enshrined in national law or they're only now actually finalising the switch.

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[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good thing the west never forces people to learn languages or selects a single language for their state and stamps out minority dialects. Definitely not something the UK, France, etc have any experience with and certainly something Americans are blameless on. They're all so egalitarian about people speaking other languages and not full of people who immediately fly into a frothing rage at the suggestion some child within their borders may not speak their national language.

I've seen the French, British, Americans, Germans, all basically say of the migrants that they have to learn and speak their language to stay.

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

Icelandic people are still taught danish in schools lmao. The danish colonized white people, yet noone writes about our rubber stamp parliament

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 2 points 23 hours ago

I think people need to divorce the idea that school education should be expected to be in the exact same variety of language that the students would use with their family and friends. It's honestly not even a good thing. Unless there's a grand total of 100 native speakers, nobody uses the same exact variety of language. Tibetans don't all speak a single variety of a Sino-Tibetan language called Tibetan. They speak various closely related varieties, what most people would called dialects. What's called Tibetan is Standard Tibetan, which is based on a particular dialect or group of dialects along with various other changes to smooth over any regionalism. And if it's done right, Standard Tibetan wouldn't just be the Tibetan spoken in the largest Tibetan city with some token regionalisms thrown in to disguise the copypasta job, but a constructed variety that is equaldistant enough from major Tibetan varieties that no speaker of a Tibetan variety can say, "See, I'm speaking real Tibetan that's taught in school and used in government, unlike you dumbass losers who are speaking grammatically incorrect Tibetan." You're just replacing ethnic majority chauvinism with a regional chauvinism.

The ideal policy would be students are taught the regional lingua franca and the national lingua franca, especially if the regional lingua franca and national lingua franca are too different from each other. Both the standardized regional lingua franca and standardized national lingua franca ought to be different enough from an actually spoken variety in order to suppress regional chauvinism. But I don't agree with the idea that education ought to be done in the same exact variety spoken at home or by the local village at all. People are more than capable of learning multiple languages.

[–] videogame@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

idk if this would be considered reactionary but I'm kind of against language barriers. I do think it's better when more people speak the same language. And if everyone in the world has to learn one language, it should probably be Chinese I guess

[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

People are right to be concerned about minority languages... And according to the translated document, so is the chinese government.

The media is trying to portray the law like its promoting north amrerican style reservation schools, or like the brits tried to extinguish the irish language.

[–] Soot@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The issue isn't all speaking one language, that's great, but it's the marginalisation of other languages. I agree it'd be cool for everyone could speak to each other, but minority languages also carry a lot of history, culture and new and important ways of thinking about the word and relating concepts. The attitude should be a lingua franca, rather than replacing native languages.

I'd go so far as to suspect that a multilingual world, where people primarily think about things in different grammar structures, is borderline essential to good scientific progress.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Everyone should strive to know more than one language, and in China this is most often what happens with ethnic minorities with local languages, unlike Occitanians in France for example, who are severely repressed and whose language is endangered.

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[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This reminds me of that all-timer rage bait where that anarchist tweeted "We must remember that literacy is not an unalloyed good."

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think about it like once a week. What a banger.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

I always remember that one anti-communist on twitter saying that his grandpa was able to live a life free of communist propaganda because he was illiterate kbity-how

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Hey Lemmy.World, how's it going?"

https://lemmy.world/post/44186892

I don't go over there, like ever. Randomly checked today and saw they had the same thread we're talking about now. Just non-stop thought-terminating clichés. And they're not Stormfront, so these libs are just posting fed talking points out of pure love for the game. Anyone suggesting students can't even graduate high school in the US unless they have English credits are all down voted.

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[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's really hard to parse through the article wether this is actually a rare China L or just typical bad reporting

[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

From what I've read so far, it falls in the category of "at its absolute worst, it will be the same as policies in almost every other large, diverse country."

A lot also seems to come down to the implementation. Consider two policies:

  1. Mandarin-only education, and not only are there no educational resources for teaching local languages, but children are punished in school if they speak their native tongue.
  2. A long-term push towards teaching in Mandarin, but it's only ramped up to the extent schools can also teach local language classes, and kids are encouraged to retain fluency in their native tongue.

You could write the same BBC article about both policies.

[–] godisidog@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What’s an L about this? Everyone should be taught the dominant language of the nation they live in. Frankly everyone wants to learn the language because life without it is objectively more limited and difficult, so this won’t even really change much.

[–] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Frankly everyone wants to learn the language

This is absolutely untrue. Plenty of people, especially in colonized nations, do not, in fact, want to learn the dominant language of the nation-state they live in. Especially when there is a history of violent repression of indigenous languages. Linguistic hegemony is an integral facet of socio-cultural hegemony.

Enforcing dominant language education is most often a way to supplant the socio-cultural makeup of indigenous groups. This was a key policy in residential schools on Turtle Island, for instance.

Providing minority language education is crucial for safeguarding indigenous linguistic cultures. That's not to say that you shouldn't also offer national language education, but to demand it at the expense of minority language education is a form of indigenous cultural erosion.

"Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam."

[–] godisidog@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is absolutely untrue.

I'm being China-specific. All the Tibetans and Uyghurs and other Chinese minority people I've known learn Chinese because it gives them opportunities that they otherwise would not have. Don't know about other countries so I won't comment.

[–] Sam@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

The difference being teaching a national language and all teaching being in the national language are not the same. The latter destroys languages.

[–] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Everyone should be taught the dominant language of the nation they live in

This is not a China-specific comment, which makes the following sentence seem more broad as well. But, frankly, it is also incorrect even in a China-specific context. Firstly, because this is a law that mandates national-language education, and secondly, because you cannot possibly speak on behalf of every minority language speaker in China. there is nothing frank about that claim, just a claim to encompass entire populations based on the people you personally have met.

It would be just as wrong for me to claim that no minority language speakers want to learn Chinese because I have met Hakka Chinese who are bitter about needing to learn Mandarin.

As far as giving them opportunities: sure, this is true. But it could be just as possible a solution to expand minority-language opportunities as it is to legislate away minority-language education. It's a narrow-minded solution to a large problem that is easily brushed aside as a minority concern.

[–] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just because your indigenous group's region is encompassed into a larger governing body does not mean you should need to learn another language. Why shouldn't the people governing you presume to learn your language if communicating with you is so important? If they are representing your group at a national level, if they lay claim to your ancestral territory, why aren't they able to take an effort to ensuring that your integration into a wider society doesn't come at the cost of your cultural identity?

This effort is what leads to reciprocal language exchange--and ultimately, inspires people to learn the dominant language out of choice, rather than coercion.

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[–] Wrrzag@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, it seems dumb having part of your population unable to communicate with another part of the population. Having a common language does not delete minority languages (although some measures to protect those minority langs, like making mandatory for any public servant to be able to communicate in them when working in their respective regions, should be put in place).

Edit: I skimmed the translation someone posted and I'm less favorable to this. Making education use the dominant language will erase the minority ones. Daily life should be in the minority language, and both should be taught in school.

[–] larrikin99@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One major point, the article frames this as being used to suppress "non-han" ethnicities. In fact, the biggest loss of linguistic diversity going on is with han Chinese losing dialects of yue, wu, etc.

The article is scant on what the actual changes the law will bring is. My preference for every country is that elementary school should be taught in the students home language, where possible, and middle to high should be a world language like Chinese, Arabic, English, Spanish, etc.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The article never makes a concrete claim except that there is a mandate for Mandarin to be taught starting from Kindergarten (not that schooling is in Mandarin, but that the language itself is taught). They never make any specific claim about the language of any other subject (or schooling in general) being changed.

[–] bdazman@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

Put this shit in the Inventing Reality comm

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

It is my understanding that every child in China is required to complete at least grade 9 (basically junior high) and in school you already learn Mandarin so even if this was mandated then what would it change?

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Controversial take: literacy good, language skills also good

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[–] 389aaa@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Glad to see that evidently the Hexbear party line is that colonial policies that destroy the cultures of Indigenous groups are actually Cool and Based as long as it's a Chinese Person doing it.

This website is such a joke with the China circlejerking sometimes, come on, the reflexive defense of everything China does has gone way too far when we have a thread like this where people aren't even investigating the law in question and arguing about how it's 'not that bad' or whatever to actively regress in policy towards linguistic minorities and take away schooling in local languages that already existed.

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 1 points 4 hours ago

Kill the liberal in your mind that takes the BBC at face value. The primary source exists. You should read it.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's not colonial policy though? The government aren't banning them like say the British banned Irish. They are just mandating schooling through the common language (with minority language classes and it likely still being the dominant language spoken at home) which is sort of important if you want to move from your home village or you know attend university. Trying to follow university level technical classes while only being conversational in the language it's being taught in fucking sucks.

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[–] Soot@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hexbear party line

I'm seeing a lot of mixed opinions on this. Not a party line or China circlejerking.

I think the issue is that, as fucking always, we have no good accurate reporting on China. So deriving information from a source we know will lie to portray China as bad, it's no wonder people are confused. Are China actually extinguishing native languages? Are they taking away schooling in local languages? Are they destroying indigenous cultures? Based on the comments here... I still don't really know.

And while I may know some Mandarin, I'm a long way off understanding technical legalities in it.

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