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How did you figure out you are establishing a connection to google? Wireshark or similar?
Does it happen specifically as you open Firefox, or what do you mean with keeping ‘a connection permanently’? Which endpoint is it trying to reach?
I feel these are important details before people can help you out.
Firefox is trying to connect to 34.160.144.191 at startup. It continues the connection, perhaps to reuse it, or whatever.
Firefox should never talk to google. And if there is some database that google has that firefox needs, Firefox should duplicate that DB. The fact that I have this thing talking to google anytime I do anything is gross. Anyhow. Blah blah blah. I'm annoying! ;-)
I have a feeling it's the safebrowsing. Will find out later. And then will disable.
At your own risk, disable Safe Browsing. And add all Google domains to the blacklist of uBlock Origin. Or you can simply switch to LibreWolf and go on with your life.
Yes, Google Safe Browsing is probably the cause. Anyone curious can read more about it here, but that traffic at browser startup is probably going to Google's Safe Browsing API servers.
I've disabled all of the safe browsing via about:config
still talks to google. weird. also it still keeps the connection open either for re-use or, dunno.
f course not; it’s the distro that makes the call. But I want the Librewolf folks to make the effort to get accepted by the distro.
Hmm, I will try the LibreWolf - will also try disabling safe browsing.
Thanks for the info!
Btw, disabling Safe Browsing didn't do the trick.
I did download LibreWolf. I have bad news - it does exactly the same thing.
Sigh. Maybe if you are using it you should profile it on osx or windows - or ntop linux I think will do it.
LibreWolf can't be a convenient daily driver. Need tweaks and tweaking default settings may reduce privacy and security slightly.
Yes, I've tried it multiple times, but, apart of the so-called "privacy features", I can't find a single reason to use it instead of regular Firefox. Well, I suppose that if you're really paranoid, or hate every single decision Mozilla makes with the force of a thousand suns, then it can be appealing.
Thats because it is so close to Firefox to not even be distinct, but the privacy settings are useful anyway. I've used it as a daily driver for a long time and have not yet found it lacking.
apart of the so-called "privacy features", I can't find a single reason to use it instead of regular Firefox.
Because it's supposed to be Firefox but private. That's literally the only distinction.
$ sudo apt install librewolf
[sudo: authenticate] Password:
Error: Unable to locate package librewolf
[https://librewolf.net/installation/debian/]
We have a repository for Debian-based distributions (Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, etc.), with which you can easily install and update LibreWolf. To add it to your system and install LibreWolf, run the following commands one by one:
sudo apt update && sudo apt install extrepo -y
sudo extrepo enable librewolf && sudo extrepo update librewolf
sudo apt update && sudo apt install librewolf -y
For years, just in case I've missed disabling some FF telemetry ... Every night I disable networking. Mornings I start FF up first, and (once my -local- home page is fully loaded) only then do I enable networking.
DNS over HTTPS could be using the Google DNS services.
Hmm, I don't think so in this case. Although I will check tomorrow. Thanks for the tip!
I'm not sure about in Firefox directly but if you use a local dns or similar you could have Google resolve to nothing
True
You lost zero info for how you think it’s connecting…?
Ok I have some news -
It's not safebrowsing - or probably not - maybe I just can't turn it off now or something.
So I
Nothing worked.
Eventually got logs running with: "export MOZ_LOG=timestamp,rotate:200,nsHttp:5,cache2:5,nsSocketTransport:100,nsHostResolver:100"
found out mozilla is doing fucking push notifications?? wtf. that resolves to google? turned that off.
Anyway, it does a bunch of shit. All talking to google in the end.
I hate Firefox. I'm so over all of this.
When I start the browser, and it is blank, and I have done nothing, it should do nothing. If it needs some base certificate updates, it should do this once a week. Or never. Let me decide.
Talking to google, even doing dns lookups every fucking time I open a browser. God. Who are these people. /rant