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So long as there's a proper primary I don't see the harm in this, not really. I can't see her running a good enough campaign to make it through the primaries, at least not without also having a good enough campaign to beat the fascist party after Trump.
the key here is “proper primary.” I can’t remember a time when they’ve had one that wasn’t fucked up in some way.
Just to terrify you a little bit. In the 2020 election, Harris and Biden only had one candidate that regularly polled worse than they did, which was a culty Tulsi. And if you remember, out of that large field, Biden won.
The DNC has a gigantically fat thumb on the scales.
Remember when the media decided that Biden winning the south Carolina primary was basically a coronation.
Three words: Hillary Rodham Clinton
It sure looked like Bernie was gonna kick her butt until the DNC decided they didn’t like a Democratic Socialist possibly winning. Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigned for a reason.
I don’t trust the primaries to be fair. There is too much money and power at stake to let “the people” actually decide the candidates. To me it’s the major reason everyone says both parties are the same. It’s because both candidates are picked by the same people, at least at this level. Yes I know they aren’t the same, especially now. But have you ever noticed how feckless the Democratic leadership seems to be? It’s because the billionaires are really the ones in power.
The only purpose of the staggered primary is for them to slowly manufacture your consent for who they want. The only way we're going to get an honest primary is if the entire country did it on one day like we do the general
a regular primary with enough debates, and where superdelegates are shun till the end, should be bare minimum
How about just no super delegates and the people decide.
How about a primary where superdelegates get no more/better votes than anyone else?
What am I thinking? That might result in someone who isn't on the corporate teat!
Are you fucking stupid? You lost to Donald Fucking Trump—you know, the racist, fascist pedophile rapist? You lost to that guy, and you'd be running against his specter and his legacy, the racist and xenophobic sentiments that still run deep in this country.
What is uniting the American people, however, is a rising class consciousness, not establishment Dems like you. We already tried voting for "not-Trump," and y'all squandered the opportunity to appease the wealthy, expand the police state, send more bombs to Israel, and treat all the people shouting "Danger!" like children, rather than securing our democracy and standing against genocide.
Fuck. Right. Off.
I mean, she'd be better than Trump. But that's such a ridiculously low bar.
Surely the Dems can come up with a better candidate that her, Gavin Newsom, or some similarly uninspiring/greasy candidate. Right? Right???
That isn't the question, the question is over whether the DNC and the ruling class allow any other candidate to run against Trump.
Well, we're in luck, the new chair of the DNC (Ken Martin) wants more candidates like Zohran Mamdani, and he has complete control over the DNC until August 2029.
He's also pouring money into local races, supporting the local democratic parties the previous few DNC chairs mostly ignored.
Jesus Christ woman, get a fucking clue. You lost the presidency to the worst piece of shit on the face of the planet. Why in the fuck do you think you have any chance against anyone else?
I'm once again reminded of the secret attack plan from Blackadder 4.
Capt. Blackadder: We all climb out of our trenches and march slowly across no man's land?
Capt. Darling: How do you know that Blackadder? It's classified information.
Capt. Blackadder: It's what we did the last time, the time before that and the previous fifteen before that.
General Melchit: Precisely! The absolute last thing the watchful Hun will expect is for us to do the exact same thing as the past seventeen times thus catching him entirely by surprise!
They'll do everything but what will actually get them elected willingly. Neo-liberals need to wake up and realize it's either going to have progress away from capitalism or just all of us drowning in fascism because they refuse much needed and necessary change.
Jesus Christ, we don't need Hillary 3.0.
We need someone who can say something and it's like...actual fucking words that normal people can relate to. Not something that was written in committee by some consultants working off polling.
"Don't rape kids. Don't violate the Constitution. Everyone gets to vote."
None of this is complicated.
Cute that US still think they will have elections after the orange buffoon. November will be very interesting, and maybe an eye opener for the remaining septics: I'll say it here now, trump is a fascist, a pedophile, a narcissist, and a dictator. He will not leave. He will use putin's playbook. The rest of the world needs to wake up now and consider the US as an antagonist, same as Russia and China. I would be delighted to be wrong, wait and see I guess.
People seem to have forgotten the only reason she was the candidate was because Biden dropped out and she was the VP.
She got practically no votes in the primaries.
I'd still take her over MAGA, any day.
Good for you, that is irrelevant because empty centrist, corporate politicians like her will never win against MAGA.
If she wins the nomination, then MAGA wins the presidency.
Please don't be stupid.
Yeah I knew Democrats were in on this shit but if they run Kamala in 2028 then they're 100% complicit. There's 0% chance she wins
So far it's Harris and Newsom. Cool. Cool cool cool.
No, I'm not worried at all. Who said I'm worried?
If she's nominated, it's a fix. Classic authoritarian playbook: maintain the illusion of democracy by propping up an opponent that you aren't likely to lose to. Then, stuff the ballot boxes anyway.
Get. The. FUCK. Out.
Don't come back. The country, or what's left of it, can't afford her. She's fine as a milquetoast corporatist, but she has proven she can't do it.
So sick of the US's neo liberals masquerading as left. A lot can change in a few years hopefully there will be enough change. In the end all that matters is if people wake up to the lies before it too late. It's incredible how bad it has to get before people wake up.
The MAGA movement is crumbling but only time will tell if it's enough. A lot of delusional neo liberals think things will just go back to normal if they get in office next term
Either there will be a socialist president in 2028 or democracy will be dissolved by 2032.
If the Democratics run Harris or New some I might actually lose my mind. have we learned nothing from the past decade?
Yeah cause we want a former prosecutor to head up the ACAB crowd. Democratic party is shit.
What was the highest number she reached in the polling during 2020 primaries?
Afaik she has never won a single delegate in an actual primary.
The Democrats need to learn that they need someone that doesn't come off like a "party person" if they want to attract voters. Kamala could have had that, but her refusal to burn Biden for his failures in office while on the campaign trail the last time did a lot of harm to her chances of ever escaping that image to the average swing voter. She is no more electable to the Presidency now than Hillary Clinton.
Oh for fuck sakes! C'mon lady! Sacrifice! Let a new face do it! There's 300 million of us. I'm sure someone else can be better than you know who. Go do something else to help democracy. I'd vote Beyonce.
No, you are all wrong here. Let her in, and tell her to be stubborn and stay in until the end, no matter what.
With any luck, she and Gavin will split the Clueless vote and there will be room for someone sane to sneak in there, in spite of the DNC....
I'll vote blue, no matter who, but I will vote for everyone else before Harris in the primaries.
