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QatarEnergy, the world's largest producer of natural gas, just got bombed.
Y'know, usually the markets price things in well before they happened, but there was a whole lot of hopium this time that somehow a large-scale Middle Eastern war would not effect fossil fuel production and shipping.
Good. Fuck being dependent on dictators for our energy. Renewables is the only way forward. Eurpean energy for Europeans.
Economy is imploding because people don't want to pick between switching to green energy and not murdering brown people.
Wait. Why is that a choice? Wouldn't switching to green energy mean less fossil fuel related wars, meaning we can have BOTH?
Not really the issue at hand, but sure. This is less about getting to kill brown people than about Iranians. And their government lacks public support and is not just willing to do mass killings in the streets and executions to maintain their grip on power but is actually doing that too.
The civilian death toll is probably going to be much lower than in the January protests. But that does not mean that a military intervention is right or resolves the participants from doing nation building afterward.
If only we had some way of generating energy independent of oil and fossil fuels.
It seems to me that every major conflict (Russia, Middle East) spikes oil prices, relatively unpredictably (if you can call this unpredictable).
Maybe the world should look for alternative sources of energy, which are abundant, cheap, and can be deployed non centrally?
No. No thatβs insane.
These prices are literally controlled by price-fixing cartels.
But Europe is investing hundreds of billions in North Sea wind farms to generate hydrogen for heating, it was initiated by Putin's actions.
Now we just have to hope that people dont dig up this bullshit idea of using hydrogen to heat your own house.
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The Gang Heat Their House With Hydrogen
There's really nothing wrong with generating hydrogen when power costs are negative.
Except that only happens like 500 hours a year.
And hydrogen will leak from any tank.
And it turns metal brittle.
And I wouldn't trust my neighbor with a propane tank, let alone hydrogen.
And its nearly impossible to transport through existing infrastructure.
But other than that, its great!
Wow! so glad we have clean coal now!
You forgot about the part where the possibility of generating hydrogen cleanly from electricity later is used as an excuse to build infrastructure and fuel-cell cars for it now, even though hydrogen now is dirty hydrogen produced by cracking fossil fuels.
I have no confidence that the second phase of switching to electrolysis would actually happen, and that "the hydrogen economy" isn't just a greenwashing scam perpetrated by natural gas producers.
What's that? I couldn't hear you over the nonstop greenwashing of gas cracking plants.
I always love the stupidity of this idea: You were able to generate pure hydrogen at high costs... Now what should we do with it? Well lets just do what we did since the middle ages and burn it!
Hydrogen has one of the highest energy densities by mass. It's a very reasonable energy storage
Well, there are useful appliances for hydrogen, where you just burn it. Burning it to heat your own home isnt one if them.
The pedofile parasite class says no
Gas is not oil.
Why is this downvoted? This guy is technically correct.Β
Because Lemmy. Facts lose to feels.
And the German government wants to end the sales ban for gas boilers. 55% of German gas consumption is used to heat buildings. So this is a key part of reducing consumption. Another case of a conservative government hurting Germany badly.
I'm laughing because I went with Habeck's advice and installed a simple heat exchanger in my house that is hooked up to a centralized community heating system that runs on sustainable heat sources. Because Habeck, imperfect as he may have been, had a realistic view on things that was rooted in scientific data.
Fuck the CDU and fuck the SPD, fucking class-traitor scumbags.
We buy the much more expensive US fracking gas. That spike is a minor blip to Europe.
The European Commission has a website listing the top gas suppliers to Europe
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/
Our main suppliers are, as of 2025:
While Qatar doesn't provide a huge proportion of European gas, it's not insignificant either. A disruption in the supply of Qatari gas could very easily cause prices to go up by a lot.
It's not just about where european countries buy, there's a global market, it's about who bought gas from Qatar and where they will buy their gas now. AFAIK Qatar exports a lot to asian countries, if they can't get gas from Qatar anymore they're going to buy from other countries, for example from the USA. That's going to raise the price for US fracking gas and will affect Europe.
Exactly. India buys from Qatar. Qatar stops supplying, India starts buying from the US, just like us.
Too many innocent people will be affected by this so I can't say "leopards eating face" without reservations, but still, those leopards will be eating good tonight.
Oh dear. Please drive a bit slower or take a train...