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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 201 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Who the fuck will trust the US when they bomb you during peace talks

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 187 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Trump did this last term too, we killed their intelligence chief when he landed for peace talks with Iraq.

This is a war crime, BTW. Attacking someone under a perceived state of truce or ceasefire is called "perfidy".

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (7 children)

And was, IIRC, widely praised for it by the pundit class.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I still remember 2017, when Donald decided to drop the MOAB on Afghanistan and Fareed Zakaria praised him effusively on CNN.

Guess he learned the lesson.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

What did Trump say recently? Something like: "I have no need for international law. The only thing that can stop me is my own morality." (Obviously, the wrong words, because he doesn't speak that well, but the same meaning.) We all know what his morality is like. He's OK with fucking little girls, and, possibly, killing them. The only morals he has is doing things to benefit himself.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

War crimes don't mean anything. It is a cudgel the victor uses to do more damage after they win.

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 42 points 1 month ago

For decades American kids were taught that the Japanese were the lowest of the low because they bombed Pearl Harbor with no warning, also while discussing peace.

Trump would have heard the story over and over as a lad.

[–] rottenmummy@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 month ago

That's the neat part. You don't

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 125 points 1 month ago (4 children)

For any US soldier reading this thread: you are attacking another country to cover up for your pedophile president.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Considering the average soldier is likely not the brightest bulb, and not the most morally compassed... Isn't it likely the only thing stopping the US from invading EU-ish countries, is our skin color?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

Tell that to Greenland

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 11 points 1 month ago

Copied the script from Wag the Dog

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[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 111 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Well, Trump has now dragged us into a World War on behalf of Israel. Meanwhile people in America starve, are homeless, addicted to opiates, and have no jobs and no healthcare. Everything is unaffordable and the American people are hopeless, and now another endless war.

Fuck Trump. America First? America fucking Last....

[–] axh@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Don't worry, the AI bubble will probably export unemployment to the rest of the world before it bursts, so everyone can starve

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[–] Rothe@piefed.social 29 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I'm not seeing any reason why a world war would erupt over this. China and Russia are glad that the US has entered into another stupid military mess, they have no reason to actively engage, the US is destroying itself all on its own.

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Saying this is the start of a World War is such a USA-centric brain dead take. Ukraine war is closer to World War than anything that might happen in Iran will ever be.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Ugh.... China is constantly itching while constantly glaring at Taiwan, and (recently) eastern Russia... Distracted 'murica makes braver China

WW started not suddenly, everybody kinda slowly joined the party

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[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

China is likely to attack Taiwan while the U.S. is distracted. Pakistan and India could get into it while there's no one available to intervene.

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[–] lemming@anarchist.nexus 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just desperate enough for the promises of the benefits received by military service to start sounding very appealing.

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[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 100 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Just goes to show how much the FIFA peace prize is worth!

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 67 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Huh, every single recipient of the FIFA peace prize is a rapist and convicted felon. Odd.

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[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

A trophy, photoshoot and bribe for stolen land, all paid by working class. Brilliant. Art of the deal - never trade with your money, lives are worth nothing (on wall street)

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Iran signaled thgat they were going to give them everything they asked for so they attacked instead. They never wanted a deal, they wanted a reason to start a new zionist war on the American taxpayers dime.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Iran already had a nuclear agreement with the USA and other countries, which Trump tore up during his first term before he bombed them. Then a few years later they're about to agree to his replacement deal and, as they prepare to sign, Trump bombs them.

No one will want to negotiate anything with the USA after Trump's behaviour in the past year. No agreement is worth the paper it's written on.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This just taught the world when dealing with the USA you strike first. I'm of the mind this is the start of WW3 now because I doubt the other BRIC countries don't get involved.

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[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 60 points 1 month ago (11 children)

It's a good way to teach everyone that the way to deal with America is to stab them in the back as soon as possible, and to make it a killing blow. 

Thanks for telling us who you are.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (5 children)

US: "You can't enrich uranium!"

Iran: "We reluctantly agree to this term."

US: Bombs Iran anyway

We live in a clown country 🤡

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Gotta distract from the files and stop the elections somehow, after all. Nice lil twofer for sure.

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[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Invite diplomats for peace talks then start bombing their home while their away. So typical.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it's like these assholes saw 'Braveheart' and rooted for Longshanks.

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Whelp, it looks like Star Trek was on the nose. This is probably the year World War III begins.

EDIT: WWIII last 27 years.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You forgot Eugenic Wars.

Instead of genetically engineered superhumans we get kleptocratic asshole billionaires and AI.

Instead of charismatic Khan Noonien Singh future gets a sickly pale Mark Zuckerberg.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We're in the Confederation Timeline from Picard S2. Khan didn't happen in that iteration of events.

It fits. Awful season, awful reality.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Shoutout to Evan Vucci who made the photo that heads the article. It encapsulates the whole situation perfectly: The Don behaves predictively like an angry, lying troll, making smugly grinning Netanyahu's wishes come true.

They really deserve each other. I just wish somebody gave them a sandbox so they wouldn't have to destroy the world.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

I just wish somebody gave them a sandbox so they wouldn't have to destroy the world

Preferably located somewhere on Venus

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So that's why they gave Anthropic that deadline, huh? I should have seen that one coming, that's on me.

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I knew it was coming when they said there were bears on the moon with ak47s.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

The US and israel are not looking for peace.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

No foreign wars #2.

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago

One way to cover up the Trump-Epstein-Gate cover-up.

[–] nature_man@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 month ago

God fucking damn it

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

It proves once again one cannot trust the USA and Israel under their current regimes.

[–] Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Saw this cool site with a live map of alerts of the region, but I also noticed an odd name on the map. TIL Batman is a city and province in southeastern Turkey, serving as a major hub for the country's oil industry near the Tigris River.

https://iran.liveuamap.com/?filter_cat=&ll=37.247821%2C31.398926&zoom=6

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Selected excerpts from:

THE THEORY AND PRACTICE OF

OLIGARCHICAL COLLECTIVISM

by

Emmanuel Goldstein


Chapter III

War is Peace


The splitting up of the world into three great super-states was an event which could be and indeed was foreseen before the middle of the twentieth century.

[...]

The frontiers between the three super-states are in some places arbitrary, and in others they fluctuate according to the fortunes of war, but in general they follow geographical lines.

[...]

In one combination or another, these three super-states are permanently at war, and have been so for the past twenty-five years. War, however, is no longer the desperate, annihilating struggle that it was in the early decades of the twentieth century. It is a warfare of limited aims between combatants who are unable to destroy one another, have no material cause for fighting and are not divided by any genuine ideological difference. This is not to say that either the conduct of war, or the prevailing attitude towards it, has become less bloodthirsty or more chivalrous.

On the contrary, war hysteria is continuous and universal in all countries, and such acts as raping, looting, the slaughter of children, the reduction of whole populations to slavery, and reprisals against prisoners which extend even to boiling and burying alive, are looked upon as normal, and, when they are committed by one's own side and not by the enemy, meritorious. But in a physical sense war involves very small numbers of people, mostly highly-trained specialists, and causes comparatively few casualties. The fighting, when there is any, takes place on the vague frontiers whose whereabouts the average man can only guess at, or round the Floating Fortresses which guard strategic spots on the sea lanes.

In the centres of civilization war means no more than a continuous shortage of consumption goods, and the occasional crash of a rocket bomb which may cause a few scores of deaths. War has in fact changed its character. More exactly, the reasons for which war is waged have changed in their order of importance. Motives which were already present to some small extent in the great wars of the early twentieth century have now become dominant and are consciously recognized and acted upon.


To understand the nature of the present war -- for in spite of the regrouping which occurs every few years, it is always the same war -- one must realize in the first place that it is impossible for it to be decisive.

[...]

In any case each of the three super-states is so vast that it can obtain almost all the materials that it needs within its own boundaries. In so far as the war has a direct economic purpose, it is a war for labour power. Between the frontiers of the super-states, and not permanently in the possession of any of them, there lies a rough quadrilateral with its corners at [...] containing within it about a fifth of the population of the earth. It is for the possession of these thickly-populated regions, and of the northern ice-cap, that the three powers are constantly struggling.

In practice no one power ever controls the whole of the disputed area. Portions of it are constantly changing hands, and it is the chance of seizing this or that fragment by a sudden stroke of treachery that dictates the endless changes of alignment.

All of the disputed territories contain valuable minerals [...]. But above all they contain a bottomless reserve of cheap labour.

Whichever power controls equatorial Africa, or the countries of the Middle East, or Southern India, or the Indonesian Archipelago, disposes also of the bodies of scores or hundreds of millions of ill-paid and hard-working coolies. The inhabitants of these areas, reduced more or less openly to the status of slaves, pass continually from conqueror to conqueror, and are expended like so much coal or oil in the race to turn out more armaments, to capture more territory, to control more labour power, to turn out more armaments, to capture more territory, and so on indefinitely.

It should be noted that the fighting never really moves beyond the edges of the disputed areas.

[...]

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