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[–] starik@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, the Edsel was a medium-price range car competing against only ~5 comparable brands. It was supposed to sell like the Toyota Camry does now.

The Cybertruck is still garbage with embarrassingly low sales though.

[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Cybertruck was pitched as a $40k pickup for the average Joe.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

LOL, I'd forgotten about that part. It really was.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I hate Tesla as much as the next person but if the cyber truck retails at 10x the price (adjusting for inflation) then the cyber truck out earned the Ford Edsel 5:1. I don't know the real numbers but I'm sure it's not as bad as this makes it seem.

[–] nublug@piefed.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you know it costs more to make, too. where are you getting this 10x and 5:1 bullshit, anyway? you admit you don't have the real numbers but also insist it's not as bad as this meme makes it seem, but based on what my dude?

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Based on the fact that I know they cost more. They are marketed as luxury trucks my dude. It's not some wild and wacky theory my guy. I just said 10x to make the math as simple as possible when I typed.

Edsels sold for the equivalent of 26,000$, cyber trucks start at 79,000$ that's 1.5:1 in favor of cyber trucks.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They are marketed as luxury trucks my dude.

They weren't, though. First it was originally supposed to be $40k, and then when they couldn't do that they put a lot of "projected fuel savings" BS into their pricing page to make it look much cheaper than it actually is. If they were genuinely trying to market it as "luxury" they wouldn't be chasing so many Government sales.

It ended up with this "luxury" image entirely inadvertently, because it's not fit for purpose and only a rich idiot would ever buy one.

[–] nublug@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

and why does a 'luxury' price make it not as bad of a flop when selling half as many units as a famous flop from when the us pop was half the size? you know things cost money to make, right? cybertrucks aren't making tesla 79k profit a sale. what even is the point in trying to make it seem not as bad unless you're trying to simp for tesla?

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I make a luxury watch for 500$, you make your watch for 20$. We both sell our watches for double the price. I need to sell less watches to make a larger profit than you.

It seems like you're trying to lie about Tesla to hate them.

I still hate Tesla and Elon despite the fact that the flop of the cyber truck isn't actually worse than the worst flop of all time. That actually makes me more of a Tesla hater than you. Sorry, I don't make the rules :/ better luck next time

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

That's a sound idea, but it really needs numbers, otherwise it looks rather pointless.

I'm not sure if Ford made profit from selling those cars (when unsold ones are accounted for), I'm not sure if Elon did, too.

[–] nublug@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

lol yeah simp

edit: "acktually they made slightly more money even tho they sold less than the famous flop, you're making things up to hate tesla!" is so fucking funny.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Ford Etsel's base trim was ~$2500 in 1958, which is ~$28k today. Cybertruck base trim is $80k. So it's closer to 3x and not 10x. Consider also that a lot of cybertruck sales were made to other muskrat companies in order to inflate the numbers, which ford didn't do back then, and the US population nearly doubled since then. I'd say cybertruck is a worse flop all things considered.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Edsel is a collectors item these days. I had a colleage who spent half his retirement saving on one.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I doubt there will be any cybertrucks still on the road in 30 years, let alone 70. These things are choke full of modern squishy computers with shitty software which will fail quite soon. There would probably be collectors, but it would be a museum exhibit rather than a car.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Hey, it outsold the Fire Phone