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[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

From later in that thread:

You cannot endorse candidates on a platform of dismantling zionism. The logic of elections in the US demands moderation, access-seeking, and compromise to zionism (see Mamdami). This is the opposite of liberation. /8

There are certainly imperialist reasons for U.S. politicians to be Zionist, but a lot of them are Zionist due to ~~legalized bribery~~ campaign donations from AIPAC and related groups as well. It's a contradiction to recognize the importance of that financial cudgel, then turn around and say there's no way we can use ~~legalized bribery~~ campaign donations to support candidates who oppose genocide.

If the plan is to support genuinely anti-genocide electeds, I don't think that's a bad strategy. If the plan is to throw money at anyone who occasionally "expresses concern" or something, then yeah, this sucks.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

fighting porkies capital with capital is a losing strategy, i feel, 5 million is like what, 2-3 campaigns? adelson can find that in a cushion. small cities in amerika managed to bds successfully bypassing elected offices electing wise

[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago

I'm not saying this is the best possible strategy. I don't think any really great strategy can be financed on only several million dollars. I'm saying if the plan is to essentially reverse AIPAC, there's at least a logic to that, even if it would need to be scaled up to have a major effect (a criticism of every existing effort).

[–] jack@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why would they be giving their money to mutual aid? They are a political organization. There's no point in them acting as a charity passthrough. People who give them money are doing it so they can organize more effectively. If those donors wanted to give to Palestinian relief funds, they could do so. It's a totally different thing.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

501c3 includes charitable work. Relief funds that are periodically called terrorist networks and shattered? like samidoun?

[–] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago

501c3 includes charitable work.

It certainly can; did JVP say that's what they'd do? Is that how their organization told people it would use funds?

There are two claims in this thread that don't hold up. First is the "no money is being sent to Palestinians". Again, that's not what JVP is for. It's for organizing against Zionist policy in the US. They do BDS work. To use that to discredit them is to take an entirely non-political approach and say that the only valid use of funds is direct financial support to Palestinians.

Second is that their 501c4 is an "electoral arm designed to serve the Democrats". What's the basis for that claim? The 501c4 has been the primary part of the organization doing all their divestment work all over the country. What have they actually done to serve the Democrats? There's a lot here about "follow the money". Ok. The money doesn't move from the c3 to c4. Now what?

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Grifters got to grift

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago

grifters or ngo-brained libs, find out next time, on hexestigations the-more-you-know

i don't think they are malicious, but christ