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If PieFed is so great at replacing chatrooms (like Discord), why are we on zulip and Matrix?

I asked this as a rhetorical question, and then I realised the answer, at least for Me. Chatrooms are harder to miss information on than forums. And PieFed does have a feature to address that, which is that you can make a community notify you of all new posts. But the trouble is, chatrooms do better at getting others' attention, because not everyone sets a community to notify on all new posts.

Which is why I have a new feature suggestion: a setting community moderators can toggle that makes all new subscribers automatically ring the notification bell. They can still turn it off if they like, but by default, it's on. For communities where the usual way to engage is that everyone sees every post.

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[–] erebion@news.erebion.eu 2 points 17 hours ago

Oh no, please, not more spam. I don't need notifications, for anything.

I will look at communities when I have time to read and write replies, not when the buzzing rectangle in my pocket tells me to.

The only notifications I have on is for phone calls, even that not all the time.

Also, those notifications are what makes traditional "social" media addictive (among other things), we should not do that, for ethical reasons. We know that it has mental health effects and causes other issues.

The time of people matters. Having people get info unless they opt out is a dark pattern.

I wonder how many health effects this would cause for many people.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 21 hours ago

I don't like this idea as currently phrased, but if a question box popped up asking the user who just joined if they wanted a notification triggered upon each new post, that could be good?

Most communities that I have done this for I later un-do. Very few communities are both supremely interesting for me to want this yet also have low enough traffic to make it not overwhelming. (High ironically, this very community is one of them though:-).

Note that this would introduce confusion when users automatically get notifications for some communities but not for others.

In general it might be better to somehow highlight for new joiners of the platform the fact that a notification can be triggered on or off for most anything - posts, comments (including those from other people), communities, and users. So maybe like the icon wiggles once an hour for the first week or two of using the platform. Not that it's a priority to do such, but I mean something like this may be preferable than automatically signing someone up to a community without their explicit consent.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You mean communities set themselves up to be able to ping all subscribers whenever a post is made?

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 22 hours ago

By default, yes, but subscribers should be able to click the bell to turn it off, same as they can now.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is an interesting idea and yeah it would, in theory, help replace Discord better.

But in practice, I'm having a tough time thinking WHICH communities would be good like this. Definitely not a !games community. Maybe something niche like !stauf_mansion@lemmy.mods4ever.com lol but I'm not sure if the subscribers there would actually want that.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 points 1 day ago

I don't think there are any (public) communities like that yet, but if the feature existed, then new kinds of communities would be possible. Like a private admin chat community for an instance. Or something like a crisis help community for suicidal ideation or gender dysphoria. "Post here if it's an emergency and someone will tell you you're valid".