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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 116 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

FPS isn't really an issue with cloud gaming at all, should ask about latency if anything.

[–] pewpew@feddit.it 34 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] starblursd@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

And internet data caps, and subscriptions slowly adding in playtime limits to existing users

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 71 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You can get loads of frames per second with cloud gaming, just not necessarily from the right second.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

4k high framerate! But the compression algorithm and settings optimize that down to something between 720p and 1080p. With a half second of input latency when factors line up well.

But don't worry, soon there will be AI input prediction so that the game can predict what you'll do and render that before you even do it.

Fast forward 10 years and there's a generation of kids who think that the difference between a video game and a movie/tv show is that video games let you push buttons to look at other things if you get curious while watching. Or that would be the difference, but it's actually that you can look around accurately in VGs while it's more of a "let's see what the AI spits out if I look this way during this scene.... Bahahaha, another dickbutt!"

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 43 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Emi@ani.social 23 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm happy not owning a car and using public transport but there are limits.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 16 points 4 weeks ago

Look at this plebeian, doesn’t even own their own tram.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck that shit, I own a portion of my public transit. My taxes pay for it, I get to vote on the people who run it. That's ownership

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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Friendly reminder that Halo was a Mac game first, before Microsoft bought Bungie to prevent Apple from ever having the appearance of competence.

[–] Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works 42 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Microsoft didn't even need to do that, Apple has become more than happy to show how incompetent they are. Behold:

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Even aside from the objectively bad charging port, the shape is also awful and unergonomic. And next to a touch-based scrollwheel, it also has no right-click.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

It has right click, you just have to take your index finger off the mouse. Also the original version has replaceable AA batteries which I strongly prefer to rechargeable

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[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] achille225@jlai.lu 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Apple mouse, charging

The charging port is under the mouse, which makes it so that you can't use while it is charging

Great design !

[–] NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The design goal was to avoid people just leaving it plugged in because that is more convenient and that then showing up on photos. Can't have something as trivial as real life day to day usability ruin your image of minimalism.

[–] pulsey@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

they didnt do that for the keyboard though

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[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like typical bullshit made up by some schmuck on the web.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That’s how you charge the Apple Mouse. They intentionally designed it so you couldn’t use it while it was charging, because Steve Jobs demanded a cord-free desk. He hated the cords leading to his mouse and keyboard, and didn’t think devices should stay plugged in all the time. So he forced the engineers to design a mouse that couldn’t stay plugged in.

It really is the epitome of Apple’s “I know better than you” design philosophy

[–] remon@ani.social 24 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

That port joke sure is a dead horse ...

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

It's a two way sword.

  • On one hand, it sucks that MacBooks only have 2 ports on 13" models and 3 on 15" models (4 for M1)

  • On the other, all of the ports do charging, they're all 40gbps USB4/Thunderbolt3, they all do Displayport and HDMI. All the ports do everything. On most other laptops that just isn't the case.

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 8 points 4 weeks ago

Are we gaming during our commute now or something though? If you're at home you'll have some sort of port hub.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Honestly 3 ports is enough. And you have the separate MagSafe port too, which means all 3 are typically free. I can’t think of a good reason to have 3 devices regularly hooked up to a Mac laptop. Mouse, keyboard, external hard drive? And mouse/keyboard can be wired to each other and/or wireless?

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

How about headset, flash drive, extra monitors, Ethernet cable, charging cable, phone charging/data transfer, controller, and even a better webcam and microphone.

You are looking for solutions on a problem that shouldn't even exist in such an expensive device.

Even a dongle is just a workaround.

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[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

hey fun fact for yall: the newer apple silicon chips are powerful enough to play modern games through a windows VM!

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I've had better luck get modern games running on my phone (https://gamenative.app/) than Mac.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Is the vm translating Direct X or Vulcan to Metal? Afaiu that's the most annoying part of having a game on Mac.

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[–] Snowcano@startrek.website 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I swear to fucking god, I must be the only person alive who’s never had any issues playing any game I wanted to on a Mac. You know there’s fucking ways to accomplish this shit right??

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Out of genuine curiosity:

What is the most graphically complex game you've got working on a Mac?

FPS?

Resolution?

Hardware?

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[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

In all fairness macs have a better laptop chip with their m series. Intel just caught up but only somewhat. And amds market in laptop might as well not exist.

The downside is macOS lol

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The downside is macOS lol

I’m a Mac / Linux user and I was forced to use Windows 10 for a couple of hours today. What an absolute ridiculous piece of shit OS that is. I had forgotten how bad it was. Those few hours reawakened my burning hate for Windows. Everything feels convoluted, you are constantly fighting against the OS instead of working with it. Optical drive having read issues? Better freeze the entire GUI. Want to kill a process? haha, fuck you. At one point the frikkin’ task manager froze on me.

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[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

For all of its failings, macos is still a very unixy os. If you want to use linux but need to do creative work, macos is a mostly ok compromise. Linux based alternatives are fine for the tech savvy, but aren't a good fit for everyone.

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fwiw, I've got a laptop with an AMD 7945HX and a 4080 mobile, and uh, it doesn't give a shit, it'll run anything on high/ultra. Their market share may not be large, but that's not for lack of putting out a good product.

[–] Chrobin@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think anyone's doubting the performance, it's about efficiency.

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[–] WhatSaid@lem.ugh.im 11 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Hond@piefed.social 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Connect controller via bluetooth - Done. You dont want to use a mouse anyway because of the latency. The latency is alright for most games with a controller though. Atleast if the servers arent too far away and your connection is somewhat good. I had a free trial month for one of the services and it was pretty useable tbh.

Dont get me wrong i dont like Apple, Geforce Now or cloud anything either. But if a nongamer is able to subscribe to a service for a month or two to play that one game on his macbook thats not a bad thing? Like good for him.

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

You can't use proton in Mac? Linux and Mac are both Unix based but I don't know how much they differ

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[–] frunch@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Can't you just use Bluetooth? Or is latency an issue for macs?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The ports thing I don't think is much of an issue since don't Macs have bluetooth receivers built in?

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, like pretty much all computers nowadays. But nobody wants to combine that with cloud gaming for a total of 500ms input lag.

[–] parzival@lemmy.org 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Don't worry, cloud gaming can get up to 2,000ms input lag👍

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 weeks ago

Latency is why i don't want to play multiplayer online game, but i can tolerate it since my input is immediate. Cloud gaming gonna be jank as heck in most part of the world, not to mention i don't really have much time in my hand(like basically most working adult) so the subscription model gonna be more expensive in the long run.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 3 points 3 weeks ago

Too many scary words, you broke them. Nice.

[–] kolya@social.cologne 3 points 4 weeks ago

@capcool there's gonna be a lot more of those considering the price development of memory and graphics cards. and I think some will be quite happy to push users to thin clients

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

When the first cloud-only AAA release drops and the gaming rig gets the same FPS as the kid's school Chromebook, there will be gnashing of teeth.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 5 points 3 weeks ago

I won't gnash my teeth - If they release the game cloud-only, they officially don't want my money, which only buys games i can archive (Clean Steam Files are fine, the copy protection is more of a formality than a hurdle); same as Denuvo-protected games. A publisher that does this is dead to me.

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