I wouldn't trust the us government to tie my shoes, let alone guarantee anything. And I mean anything at all.
They can't be trusted. Full stop. The end.
this post was submitted on 15 Feb 2026
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I wouldn’t trust anything coming out of the US government’s mouth. Until pedo ring ruling the country is gone.
Especially since we ignored the last guarantee of protection we gave them.
As an American in my 30s...
Just don't trust anything the US says, period.
Who knows if our 4-year mood/tantrum cycle will honor the deal in 15 years, let alone 5.
FYI, it's "in 5 years, let alone 15"
The security guarantees won't be worth the paper they are written on.
Didn't the US give Ukraine security guarantees in 1994?
What happened to those 20 years later?
Not really, unfortunately, here's my previous comment about it:
No guarantees were given, just non binding security assurances, not that the US government actually gives a fuck about laws or treaties
If we have to get into the weeds of the differences between "guarantees" and "assurances," the country in question (the US) is not a trustworthy ally.
The US is not trustworthy.
When you are talking about legal documents(like a treaty), the language matters immensely. It's literally the reason lawyers exist.
The difference between a guaranty and and assurance should have let the Ukrainian government know the US government was never planning on helping fight Russia.
Even then ... 20 years is a long time. Who's to say the US won't elect another Russian-puppet pedo within that time?
Didn't NATO/US/Western countries give security guarantees to Ukraine for Ukraine giving up their nuclear arsenal?
How did that turn out?
The Budapest Memorandum was initially signed by Ukarine, Russia, United States and United Kingdom, "assuring" the security of Ukraine in exchange for giving up their nuclear arsenal. But afaik it doesn't really imply any legal obligations. I assume that the new agreement would involve more concrete conditions and responsibilities.
I assume that the new agreement would involve more concrete conditions and responsibilities
And what happens when (not if) the Trump administration (or some even worse successor) ignores those concrete conditions and responsibilities? Is Ukraine going to sue the USA in international court while they're being overrun?
There's no 'security guarantee' out there anymore that could possibly be worth the paper it's written on.
If I were in charge of Ukraine right now, I'd be looking for 'security guarantees' in the form of mutual defense pacts with other countries in the region that could be in a similar situation. Poland, Finland, etc. Those might actually have your back, since they know that they're next if you fall.
The US is walking a fine line between undermining any given security guarantees to the point of being worthless, cheap talk and sounding "woke" by offering any.
The US gave guarantees when they gave the nukes to Russia. We failed them. We will not honor these as well. Making a treaty with the US is folly.
Making a treaty with the US is folly.
Yep. If you need confirmation, just ask any Native American.
Not true. I thought so too, but apparently it was a guarantee to:
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respect Ukraine's territory (which Russia vialoted, the US didn't)
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bring any violations to the UN security council (which was done, but with Russia having veto power, useless)
That being said, I agree that any treaty with the US is absolutely worthless, we can ask Greenland about that.
it was a guarantee to:
respect Ukraine’s territory (which Russia vialoted, the US didn’t) bring any violations to the UN security council (which was done, but with Russia having veto power, useless)
Most people I speak to have the impression that any attack on Ukraine meant the US would jump into full scale war mode to defend them. Honestly I wish it were. At least then it would have been harder for the Biden administration to essentially ignore.
"here's a bunch of old equipment, good luck buddy" was technically more than required, but grossly inadequate.
Yeah... I don't really want to see US infantry on the ground in Ukraine, but I would have really liked to see the US enforce a no-fly zone over contested areas and maybe also bomb the shit out of Russian forces in Ukraine from the air.
Hitting targets inside Russia could be politically nonviable, as it probably violates some international laws, but with Ukraine's permission, they could absolutely hit anything they wanted inside Ukrainian territory.
Like the last "security" agreement with Russia? Russia go home agreement or die.
EU is not going to like the fact that Ukraine wants to join the EU this quickly. Corruption is still a massive issue and because of the war, the Euro will lose value, as billions will be pumped in that country.