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[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 81 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Lol wtf is Harris doing here?

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Representing the planned opposition that is nearly the entirety of the Democratic party.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

No she has to loose to Trump again. It's the only way to be sure. Never be different, let's just try it again

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Let's get Clinton back. It's her turn!

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[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago

At this point I can only conclude that the dnc want a third trump. Though, I guess that tracks, they can continue plundering and getting aipac money and doing fuck all while saying ‘eeeehhhhh we’re soooooo powerless what are we suppppoooosedddd to dooooo!?’

[–] Randynippletwist@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

Dems may as well run Satan, at least he has a chance to win unlike harris.

[–] Mniot@programming.dev 6 points 3 weeks ago

Polls like this look are based on name-recognition. Harris is the first (and only) name a lot of people will come up with when asked "who should be the Democratic candidate?"

She doesn't seem interested (she hasn't been working on keeping her name in the news like Newsom has), so she'll fall off the polls as other people climb.

[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 74 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Please don’t run Harris again.

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They will, then blame everyone else again when she loses

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

She will get destroyed in the primaries. She has zero chance of winning once people are paying attention. These results in the tweet are meaningless because unless you're a politics Andy like you and I you have no idea who any of these people are besides Harris. Honestly, I hope she runs. She'll split the vote with other corporate owned Democrats like Newsom.

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[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] daannii@lemmy.world 63 points 3 weeks ago (29 children)

AOC is the only viable option.

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[–] oh_@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Harris needs to retire. You don’t lose to Trump and get to run again.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Just watch them put in Hillary for round two

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[–] HaveAnotherTacoPDX@lemmy.today 9 points 3 weeks ago

She lost to Trump AND Biden.

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the house limit is TWO do-overs.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There is no way they run her again fuck they can't actually be that inept. If they do it again I will genuinely take it as evidence that their goal is to lose.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago

Ha, you know they are. But not inept, you see their mission isn't to win, it's to prevent popular reformists from getting control of the party. Keeping control of the party in their corporate donor connected club. But the factions within the establishment that want her will be drown out by Newsome, and they figure it's his "turn," since he waited patiently and did not challenge Kamala when her guarenteed loss was ratified by them all.

As if republicans weren't planning on cheating and a milquetoast status quo campaign could overcome it, as if 2020 was an outlier, where the stealing was punished and discouraged from future attempts, and every elected official's faith in being backed up doing the right thing and honoring their duty and defying the gangster king was affirmed after they distributed justice following 2020. As if.

Newsome is guarenteed loss, unless he embraces popular reform in a new aggressive persona, and he was chosen to not be that, they all were. That is the one requisite for higher office for the donors, being weak and not liable to upsetting the license the rich have stolen.

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[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Polls are not the mechanism parties use to “pick” candidates. That’s just not how the process works. Pollsters aren’t arms of the DNC or the RNC. They’re independent firms measuring name recognition and voter preference at a given moment, and the only way to do that is by giving respondents a fixed list of relevant, high visibility figures. It’s a methodological constraint, not a political command.

The real issue is subtler. Media ecosystems amplify a handful of names, donors flock to whoever looks viable, and voters often gravitate toward whoever they’ve heard of. That creates a feedback loop where the visible become even more visible. But polls are downstream from that loop, not upstream. They reflect the landscape; they don’t choose it.

If you want to critique the system, aim at the actual gatekeepers. Ballot access rules, debate thresholds, fundraising networks, and media exposure do far more to narrow the field than a Rasmussen questionnaire ever will. Blaming the poll is mistaking the thermometer for the weather.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Those same 'independent firms' do manipulate data for the parties. This was a poll from 2016, the only way they could show Hillary beating Bernie is if they only polled her demographic. And any voter not looking at the methodology would be convinced that Hillary was truly beating Bernie and in turn vote for her.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (39 children)

IF this is the slate, Democrats have already lost.

AOC might be able to do it. She'd need to start now, and its going to need to be a people powered campaign. They work fundamentally differently than corporate donation powered campaigns. Any other form of candidate or campaign will be to submit to fascism entirely.

Advocating for any of the other names is about as much as advocating for Republicans directly. They wont win.

Some alternatives:

  • Ro Khanna

  • Graham Platner (he'd be have been only been in the senate for 2yrs, but he's got the potential)

  • Chris Van Hollen

  • Abdul El-Sayed

  • Dean Phillips

  • John Conyers

  • Jon Stewart

  • Shri Thanedar

The next president will be both M4A and Abolish ICE or they'll be a Republican.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Agree with your message, but keep in mind that 2028 is in 3 years, no one is running at this moment or declared they will be running.

This is corporate media just setting candidates for us.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is corporate media just setting candidates for us.

I agree with this evaluation.

but keep in mind that 2028 is in 3 years, no one is running at this moment or declared

I'm aware and I think this is already a strategic mis-step. They needed to begin campaigning the day that Trump won. This is how Mamdani won. Its how Bernie came within a hogs breath of toppling the Clinton dynasty from within their own party. They didn't wait, they went to work. People powered campaigns operate in a fundamentally different manner and need more time to get going. However, they have the advantage that they exponentiate in how they scale. While they simultaneously take longer to get going, they're practically impossible to stop once they do. If Bernie had even one more month, maybe two more months to campaign in the run up to the 2016 primary, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Right now no progressive/ grass-roots populist has thrown their had in the ring and I think this is a mistake.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 18 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

They'll run Weekend at Biden's before they let AOC have a go.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

People are irredeemable idiots if AOC is that low. Shapiro is literally IDF. Newsom and Harris are pro genocide. Booker is another pro genocide traitor

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I hate to tell you, but a hardcore progressive will not be nominated. As they always do, the party leadership will decide that the way to beat MAGA is to be MAGA.

Stop obsessing over the presidency. You want revolution? All politics is local. Start by putting younger progressives on planning commissions, school boards. Move up to city councils, county supervisor. Then start taking state offices. You have to elect progressives to local offices for name recognition.

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[–] BannedVoice@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I understand the point of view but could you imagine a “write the name of the person who should be president here _____ “ system would work? I would feel so bad for ballot counters in that race.

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[–] deleted@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

The illusion of choice.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Can we not pick another boomer for president? I'm very much done with that whole generation.

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[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Democrats spent years neglecting State and County elections to focus their main attention on flashy National races that could bring in big donors. Coupled with how Democrats with name recognition like to park their asses in Congress until they're frail and elderly, never making way for the next generation, there's just not a deep pool of talent to draw on for the Presidency.

AOC is the candidate I see available who would be the best suited for the actual White House but I have doubts she could win the Primary or the General. Gavin might be electable but his problems are deep enough they might discourage folks Left of Center from backing him and I really wouldn't want him in the White House anyways. Mark Kelly is getting his name tossed around. I don't know enough about him to know how I'd feel about electing him. He might be electable though. He's getting National name recognition with his battle against Hegseth. He's a moderate and a military veteran with appeal among Independents. He doesn't seem to have any real controversies and he's new enough to politics to not have alot of baggage or strong negative opinions attached to him (though that could change in 3 years). JB Pritzker being a billionaire would hurt him among Leftists but he could win both the Primaries and General I think. His wealth could help him rally support from both the Upper Classes and Democratic party insiders. His relative lack of controversy or strong negative opinions about him would help him in the General as would his growing name recognition on the National stage. Plus he's isn't afraid to go for the political jugular when he needs too. Personally don't want a Billionaire as president but I would prefer him over Newsom. And Kamala is a joke. She'll have even less support this time then last time. If super delegates start to rally around her, you'll know for a fact she's the controlled opposition candidate.

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[–] banause@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

I need to create a bot that adds "... in the US" to every post of US Americans.

[–] HaveAnotherTacoPDX@lemmy.today 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

This plan didn't work with Trump in 2016. Republicans rammed him in where he wasn't (shouldn't have been) welcome because they refused to allow any other candidate. In the same election, Democrats let their party officials to ram Hillary through because the party wouldn't accept Bernie.

Suggest we find someone WE like and do what Republicans did. It doesn't matter if it's an "outsider" or not, but I'd appreciate it if we could not pick a child rapist and sex trafficker, kthx!

I genuinely think our candidate hasn't really made themselves known to be willing to run yet. I don't think it's AOC this time, though I think she's got what it takes to do the job. I don't think it's Harris, people still feel burned by 2020. I hope we can do better than Newsom.

Kinda still want to draft Jon Stewart because he genuinely gives a fuck, can communicate like few others, knows how to be damned serious when he needs to be, and if he were on that list today he'd be near the top if not at it, just like that. And when asked, he didn't say no. We could do far worse and still be okay.

But yeah, I'm waiting to see what happens. I don't think the candidate I want that I'm sure will win is on the field yet. But I hope AOC is the running mate, whoever that person winds up being.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Jon Stewart admitted he was in the Epstien Files. He was mentioned by Epstein as the type of person they needed to "properly present" one of their stories/ lies.

He didn't have to admit anything. He just wants to be as honest and transparent with people as he can be.

Some of his recent interviews have given me the tiniest shred of hope that he may run. He isn't flatly shutting down the idea any more. He isn't saying he will run, but he used to be vehemently against the idea.

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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If Harris wanted to be a viable nominee, she'd be out there making waves and making news, instead of making some bullshit website "to appeal to the next generation of voters". Newsom is gunning for the nomination, but he's a bullshit corporatist putting on a thin veneer. Shapiro is Jewish and there are too many concerns about Israel's genocide for him to win the left and too many conspiracies about Jewish space lasers for him to appeal across party lines.

I'd love AOC, tbh; I just fear the racism and sexism that lost earlier elections would lose here as well.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Shapiro isn’t bad because he’s Jewish. Lots of good people are Jewish like Bernie for example. He’s bad because he literally served in the IDF. He’s bad because he’s a corrupt Israel first pro genocide loser.

i mean its not political parties picking it's a right wing polling outlet pushing a push poll

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