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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

IF this is the slate, Democrats have already lost.

AOC might be able to do it. She'd need to start now, and its going to need to be a people powered campaign. They work fundamentally differently than corporate donation powered campaigns. Any other form of candidate or campaign will be to submit to fascism entirely.

Advocating for any of the other names is about as much as advocating for Republicans directly. They wont win.

Some alternatives:

  • Ro Khanna

  • Graham Platner (he'd be have been only been in the senate for 2yrs, but he's got the potential)

  • Chris Van Hollen

  • Abdul El-Sayed

  • Dean Phillips

  • John Conyers

  • Jon Stewart

  • Shri Thanedar

The next president will be both M4A and Abolish ICE or they'll be a Republican.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jon Stewart might be both capable and electable but you'd have to talk the DNC into it which would be a tough sell and you'd have to talk Jon Stewart into it which would be a tougher sell.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

but you’d have to talk the DNC into it

I don't think they could stop Jon Stewart. Not even close. And the lesson on why they can't stop him is something ANY progressive looking to challenge to the DNC would need to keep in mind. The DNC seems to only be able to shut down threats from within the DNC. Jon would be operating outside of their power structure.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Didn't stop them from side lining Bernie. He was the most popular presidential candidate for two elections in a row and didn't appear on the Ballot either time.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Didn’t stop them from side lining Bernie. He was the most popular presidential candidate for two elections in a row and didn’t appear on the Ballot either time.

Still fucking hurts. We didn't have to experience ANYTHING like we have in the previous 10 years. It was literally all optional and the DNC chose to expose us to this.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Agree with your message, but keep in mind that 2028 is in 3 years, no one is running at this moment or declared they will be running.

This is corporate media just setting candidates for us.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is corporate media just setting candidates for us.

I agree with this evaluation.

but keep in mind that 2028 is in 3 years, no one is running at this moment or declared

I'm aware and I think this is already a strategic mis-step. They needed to begin campaigning the day that Trump won. This is how Mamdani won. Its how Bernie came within a hogs breath of toppling the Clinton dynasty from within their own party. They didn't wait, they went to work. People powered campaigns operate in a fundamentally different manner and need more time to get going. However, they have the advantage that they exponentiate in how they scale. While they simultaneously take longer to get going, they're practically impossible to stop once they do. If Bernie had even one more month, maybe two more months to campaign in the run up to the 2016 primary, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Right now no progressive/ grass-roots populist has thrown their had in the ring and I think this is a mistake.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

AOC has started. I just donated to her last week.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Consider planning ahead to campaign/ volunteer for them. Also, plan the uncomfortable work of converting your friends, family, strange cousins, neighbors, people at the bus stop, everyone you can to vote for AOC.

Donations are great and important, but at the end of the day, its people power that wins elections. Actual humans contacting other humans they know and explaining why they should support the candidate.

Definitely. I could probably help with graphic design of materials if that kind of thing is required.

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I like John Stewart way too much to ever want him to be a politician.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I would sacrifice Jon's pleasure for the sake of the country. He's a good person and believe in him. If he announced, everyone who knows up from down wouldn't bother competing, outside of the Democratic primary where people might try to move him in some positions. But it would be a fools errand and a waste of political capitol to try and beat them, for either Republicans or Democrats.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I had this perspective until I started watching him again recently. I know my politics have moved left since I grew up listening to him. But he's stood still. It's kind of painful to watch how much he loses the forest for the trees on every single issue. Feels like he's a gatekeeper at this point. Basically keeping a large portion of millennials from being moved further left.

He'd be the best president in my lifetime if he won. But, that bar is in the dirt.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ehhh... Not every single issue. He's always trying to do the right thing, and sometimes he lets his biases creep in (like his work with first responders coloring how he views the police in general).

But I think it's clear that his heart is always in the right place, and he's always interested in discussing things with people who know what they're talking about to get to the truth, even if that truth isn't what he originally thought it may have been.

And yeah, that would be better than anything else we've ever had. Obama tried to portray himself as being this way, but it was mostly just advertising. Jon is the real deal.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There is another one that would be even better, than Jon, whom can win. I fear he's too accomodating, too trusting, of the establishment however. I think Jon lacks the cut throat desire to build and run a political machine that can dominate politics. I think I know someone that can though.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So who is it you think would outperform Stewart?

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't want to say as of yet. Stewart could win though, at least legitimately, I don't know if he would let the republicans just take it from him, that's partly on us too, we have to make it so they can't just steal it anyway.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you think you know someone even more capable of winning than Stewart, but you want to keep it a secret?

[–] hector@lemmy.today 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes. Presidential announcements are fragile affairs, candidates are attacked early, and for other reasons, it's bad luck to jump the gun, not the least before that person is planning on running.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] hector@lemmy.today -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not as dumb as nominating hillary, biden, then kamala I would argue.

And only assholes post moving pictures in response, have a little respect for yourself. I also point to your moving picture in your name. You should be ashamed of yourself do better.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

No you misunderstand me.

You stating that "you know who should be nominated, someone even more likely to win than JS" but then not saying whom, is quite literally, the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. You are being an idiot.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am saying it's bad luck and bad manners to give that away, not the least to some rando online that posts moving pictures along with insults to people that don't share their sensitive information with them.

I don't trust you, and if I did it would not be my place to tell you either.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am saying it’s bad luck and bad manners to give that away

And that makes you an idiot. Literally, figuratively, actually.

You don't want your claim to be evaluated so you keep it "secret"?

All that means is you don't have a claim worth defending or, even if you weren't such an idiot and capable of making the claim, you are to stupid to be able to defend it. Claiming of secret knowledge while not holding their claims to account is something conspiratorial MAGAts do. The lowest of the low.

[–] hector@lemmy.today -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah yes, well people that use moving pictures and call people names on the internets are such a good source for whom is intelligent or not, so that means a lot. I really missed out sharing my name with you, not putting that great intellect to work on it!

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is why I mock you. You are too much of an idiot to even recognize how much of an idiot you are being. Being too stupid to make a claim or support it, the only value you represent is as an object for mockery.

[–] hector@lemmy.today -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No one cares what you think. As I said, the moving picture in your name removes any credibility to start with, even before you share that amazing wit with us.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No one cares what you think.

What because you said so? The one who claims to have some secret knowledge of who the perfect candidate is but wont hold that information up to scrutiny?

You just a clown and grasping for anything. You want to actually prove you know your ass from a hole in the ground?

Make your actual claim, and defend it with evidence.

Outside of that there is nothing you can do to recover.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hard to believe no one shares anything with you, with that wit! Such prose! Stunning truly. Such a great mind!

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not the one pretending I know something I don't.

you are.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's interesting mr moving banana. Keep us all updated on those great insights we have come to rely on.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Keep us all updated on those great insights we have come to rely on.

Always do, and consistently get reliable feedback saying that this is the case.

Also, you are showing your whole ass by not engaging with the points I've made and focusing on trivial things like the avatar I chose for an online pseudonym. You couldn't engage with the points I've made even if you tried.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes not engaging with the troll is a major regret of mine! I could tell when you started lobbing personal insults what a mistake it was not to share with you all the informations! So true.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your the troll here buddy. You make up some nonsense about knowing something and when called out just spee this mindless drivel.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Resident troll tropicaldingdong has a lot to say, one wonders if he is on his own or if he's grinding someone's axe over there. You should check out his account to see if he's even authentic. I bet he's not, probably a conservative pretending.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

What am trolling them?

People who disagree with you aren't necessarily trolls.

[–] lolo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Dean Phillips needs to be forgotten. I’m from his state, I know and have run a business for one of his closest friends; these are NOT people who should have power over anyone. Beyond being HUGE supporters of the Palestinian genocide, their interest is in money. That’s it. Dean Phillips is shallow, stupid, and vain. Nice of him to call out Biden, but I cannot fathom how he is on any kind of list for the actual President. I guess because he’s not known in other places? People in Minnesota do not take him seriously, there are reasons for that - we know him.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Stewart would not run, and perhaps for the best. Whoever holds that position will have to be disappointing in some regards due to reality, and Stewart may be better only soeaking to the aspects he excels at without owning the stuff that would tarnish his image and legacy.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

I think it would be hard to talk Stewart into running but only because an election and presidency would be so draining for him.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

Not with that attitude. Stewart will run if we need him, and we might.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Stewart would not run,

Stewart might run. They're closer to running than they've ever been before.