So can they sue the German government for illegally handing them over to goons, now?
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court in Hungary
There ya go, that says enough
Yea Hungary is fucked.
The minister of national affairs Dobrindt is convinced that we have a problem with left-extremist whilst barely mentioning right violence. Dobrindt likes this I think.
Are face covered police everywhere?
Eight goddamn years. While far-right terrorists are getting pardoned. Makes me sick.
Sounds though like a political crusade.
"Germany's Federal Constitutional Court, however, ruled that this trial should not have taken place in Hungary, referring to the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union (EU) and the associated ban on inhumane treatment.
The court ruled that insufficient checks had been made before T.'s extradition to ensure that the conditions of their detention in Hungary would be humane β especially in light of the fact that Maja T. identifies as non-binary.
They actually extradited her despite a court order explicitly blocking it. German cops are just fascist bastards like cops everywhere in the world. Protecting literal neonazis is their job i guess.
The court order was late. This is due to a sudden extradition and cutting of comms as opposed to dallying of the judge.
The extradition, in the strictest sense, was legal at the time.
Those responsible for illegally extraditing her need to be prosecuted for human trafficking. I have little hope anything will be done about it but itβs still a no brainer.
She was extradited before the court order was issued.
Maja T. regularly complained about inadequate hygiene conditions, poor food, extreme temperatures in winter and summer as well as poor lighting and ventilation in the cell, among other things. They were continuously held in isolation and in summer 2025 attempted unsuccessfully to force better prison conditions by going on a 40-day hunger strike.
And instead it's their gender identity that the German courts are focusing on when it comes to extradition and human rights? SMH.
edit: I stand corrected, see below.
Considering theyβre being held in Hungary, which has banned Pride and charged the mayor of Budapest for supporting it, their gender identity is almost certainly linked to their poor treatment.
I can just as well write:
Considering they're being held in Hungary, ruled by a protofascist illeberal regime, for antifascist activity, their politics are almost certainly linked to their poor treatment.
The two are obviously obviously linked of course, I mean I am not trying to split hairs here. They are being mistreated for being a non-binary antifascist, the two are indivisible in their case. What I'm actually saying is that I would hope that in Germany the more universalist issue of treating all prisoners with dignity would weigh the most.
edit: I stand corrected, see below.
What Iβm actually saying is that I would hope that in Germany the more universalist issue of treating all prisoners with dignity would weigh the most.
Such as by acknowledging that certain prisoners are more vulnerable to mistreatment than others, especially in countries with laws targeting them, and taking that into consideration?
They were deported hours before a court ruled, that they can not be deported to Hungary, due to them being non binary and Hungary being very anti LGBTQ+ and the fact that this means, that they could not expect a fair trial in Hungary.
The German supreme court basically mentioned 2 reasons why the extradition was illegal:
- The general conditions in Hungarian prisons.
- That Hungary could discriminate against Maja, because they are non-binary.
Both reasons are enough to block the extradition on their own, but by mentioning them both the cort is solidifying precedent for future cases where only one applies. Also if the police wants to lie that they didn't know of the conditions beforehand they would still be in the wrong.
And instead it's their gender identity that the German courts are focusing on when it comes to extradition and human rights? SMH.
No, that's not a focus of the german court, the court only acknowledged their gender identity as a factor that, considering hungarian queerphobic policies, aggrevates the situation Maja T. could face in hungarian prisons and the judicial system in general.
Germany's Federal Constitutional Court, however, ruled that this trial should not have taken place in Hungary, referring to the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union (EU) and the associated ban on inhumane treatment.
Yup, you're right, I should have read more carefully.
So, you gonna correct your comment?
done
How is Hungary still a EU member? Extraditions in the EU are almost automatic, this requires trust in each others justice and prison systems. If there is no trust, then there can't be extraditions of national citizens to other states. This system is quite extraordinary and remarkable (extraditions between states in some federal states are more complicated), but only works on bases of trust and compatible systems with not too different laws and practices.
It only takes one other member protecting you to become un-removable.
NATO is even worse, you're just in it forever no matter what you do. These were both poor design choices, 3/4 should be enough for anything.
Yes, Hungary is an EU member state. However, in this case is far more complex than an automated extradition. Maja's lawyer protested, a court authorized it, the extradition was rushed while a temporal injunction request to the federal constitutional court was pending, police acted before the courts decision, it's a mess and the officials responsible should be out of jobs but will probably never suffer any consequences.
For context, here is the most prominent independent Hungarian newspaper's report (they lean liberal, anti OrbΓ‘n government):
Apparently there was witness testimony that was actually crucial in establishing the verdict as being "committed in a criminal organisation".
From what I heard, in Hungary people at large feel upset about the attacks regardless of political affiliation, and in general the most problematic part is that the alleged leader was elected MEP in Italy and had to be released.
Also, while the independence of the courts is under attack in Hungary, it's the one brach of government that actually is largely independent still. The only suspicious activity is around corruption cases. I wouldn't write the judge off as a hack.
Apparently there was witness testimony that was actually crucial in establishing the verdict as being "committed in a criminal organisation".
The judge found Maja guilty of seriously injuring people though. Also, neither english nor german articles are explaining which "criminal organization" Maja belongs to, nor what constitutes such an organisation or being a member of it under hungarian law.
Secondly, all other extradition repuests associated to the Budapest Complex have been denied by courts in France, Germany and Italy, either initially or after an appeal. In Germany because there were german arrest warrants issued that had priority, in France and Italy because either the courts deemed the defendant's risks if being subjected to inhumane and degrading treatment too high or because Hungary couldn't provide sufficient guarantees the defendant's right to a fair process would be respected.
Thirdly, the fears about last point apparently was proven right, sadly by the treatment of Maja T. by hungarian security and prison forces. A bedbug cockroach infested prison cell too small, insufficient food supplies, restrictions on visits by the german lawyer, being tied up and stripped naked for extended periods of time for inspections, lack of sunlight and psychological abuse.
Lots of grounds to at least suspend Hungary's membership of the Union. This should not be permitted in the EU period.
No process to do so.
And I'll be honest, we were begging the EU to stop showering these criminals with subsidies. Now that they did, as Merkel is out of the picture, we're cleaning it up.
This is the result of 15 years of Merkel covering for OrbΓ‘n, and it's not even political, the country is just this shit.
"Criminal organisation" in Hungarian law only means that at the time of the crime committed, the perpetrators were organised, had a hierarchical relationship, and committed the crime with common premeditation.
It's not like RICO, it only carries I think 50% extra time as a "qualified case" of the base criminal act. If they would have done it at night, that's another qualified case. So would be if the victim was carrying out "public service", eg. police on duty, EMT on duty or a teacher at work.
Criminal organization in the legal sense doesn't imply some well known mafia they need to belong to, it's enough that a relatively large group of people performed the act, which stands here, according to the cited article.