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Hard to convince people thier future is in your country when their still a lingering smell of PiS everywhere.
If every country dealing with this wasn't beholden to business interests requiring "line go up", this sort of thing could be considered natural and self correcting rather than a crisis.
Population decline would mean more housing supply on the market, more competition to hire employees (better salaries and benefits), lower tuition costs to attract more students to your local university, etc. All the things that would make it easier for young couples who want kids to get established and stable earlier in life.
Only stupid people can't recognize that, on average, more people is a net benefit for a society.
Population decline also generally means more stress on government programs since the working population paying a larger share of taxes and just generally supporting the retired population is declining while the retired population is increasing. Eventually it might level off, but for a long while it would be bad for everyone (unless the rate of decline is small enough).
Also a good point. You can only raise taxes or cut programs so much.
Bad for everyone who is not filthy rich. For those it will be tad bit unpleasant at worst. And that's our main problem.
Yeah, I considered mentioning it but didn't bother. If you have enough money, you can just ignore whatever the government provides and pay for it yourself (which is ofc why the super wealthy often don't like government programs supporting the average person). Sort of makes a bad situation worse when the average person is already stressed from the problems of population decline and then they have to deal with government programs being gutted because the wealthy don't like them.
The solution is immigration.
IMO this is more of short-term solution (having some immigration is always good though). All these countries with declining populations need to fix their societies to make it actually desirable for people to have kids. Immigration by itself won't work forever (assuming the countries people are emigrating from fix their problems), but it will give them time to fix things. Problem is most of these countries seem completely incapable of actually fixing their problems, so...
All these countries with declining populations need to fix their societies to make it actually desirable for people to have kids.
Yes and it always and ever will be immigrants who lead the charge forward to try new ideas, start businesses, movements and inject new vital life into societies. To argue otherwise is to deny the basic wisdom inherent to genetics that diversity is the conjugation of strength and stability.
If immigration was the solution to everything, the US would be a paradise. It's necessary but not enough.
The problem is ecological overshoot. The solution is degrowth.
That is tangential to the idea of immigration.
If anything immigration helps with degrowth as younger people can be introduced into a society without needing to raise the global population.
Unless you are an eco fascist and just want people to starve and die to get the world you want?...
Fully agree. It's a buffer to make a return to sustainable more practical, but the goal is a lower population.
For the record my frame of view is the planet and all life on it.
No, most certainly not.
It troubles me that this topic immediately falls into discussions of solutions, and especially the turning of that to immediately think of restricting human movement, without any regard for the possibility that this is not a tragedy of some sort but instead something normal and fine.
It also troubles me that no attention seems to be paid as to why birth rates started falling so significantly in 2020. Mass infertility seems like something worth noting on a medical level, but people are stuck going "brown skin people no come here" like some kinda fucking morons