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How well does Citymapper work in Amsterdam?
To be honest, I find Google Maps pretty poor for cycling even in Australia. For some of the same reasons they're bad in the Netherlands. A high tendency to send you on busier roads (though here that means actually dangerous, rather than just a bit uncomfortable and noisy), and not really understanding the difference between an on-road bike lane, a dedicated bike path, and a quieter bike-friendly street.
I haven't found anything that doesn't require lots of manual routing.
My go-to is Ride With GPS. It gives you the ability to do manual routing if you want it, and frankly I usually do use that, but its defaults are a lot better than Google.
Yeah I've used them as well and the automatic routing is not so good. I can put 2 points 3 feet from each other and it will route them around a 2 mile detour randomly.
I use my self-hosted Wanderer now.
I can put 2 points 3 feet from each other and it will route them around a 2 mile detour randomly
I had that happen to me with Google Maps walking directions recently. I worked out pretty confidently that the reason was because Google thought it was a one-way path, because the detour would stop happening if I swapped the start and end locations.
Gmaps also seems to think I ride like a grandmother and so the eta is always way off.
I was born in Amsterdam and even I got lost there near Bijlmerplein with Google Maps.
GMaps is horrible not only as a service that forces you to enable all their spyware technologies or lose most of the functionality, not only it's hostile to any other mapping applications and makes it literally impossible to even copy the coordinates (I'm not even talking about converting links or using geo-uri's), but even within itself it's absolutely horrible for any non-car activity: hiking, walking, cycling, running, commuting — the UX of all that is absolutely abysmal.
So if you find a solution that works for you without GMaps (and preferably the one that contributes back to something like OSM), good for you, stick to that solution a forget that absolute garbage produced by Google.