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Musk's Starlink updates privacy policy to allow consumer data to train AI (www.reuters.com)

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Starlink updated its Global Privacy Policy on January 15, according to the Starlink website. The policy includes new details stating that unless a user opts out, Starlink data may be used “to train our machine learning or artificial intelligence models” and could be shared with the company’s service providers and “third-party collaborators,” without providing further details.

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[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

what the fuck data are they trying to use to train LLMs? DNS? basically everything else these days is encrypted and unreadable by them (for the time being), and DNS is easily masked as well (DoH, DoT, etc). maybe i just answered my own question, they want to train a model that can surreptitiously spy on encrypted traffic.

edit: here's some info on the "traditional" method of monitoring encrypted traffic, but this is typically done in organizations and requires having special certificates on every customer device

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

But like most traffic is SSL encrypted, how is he going to read any of it?

[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 6 points 2 days ago

Concerning.

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You can simply opt out of it for now. Eventually... good luck if Starlink enshittifies.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So fucking glad I canceled starlink after the nazi did the nazi salute

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was also recommending my family not get Starlink, though many people on the right shill it (reviews seem to be skewed for purely political reasons). However, on the technical front, HughsNet and one other service (I forget who) use higher orbit satellites, and apparently, their speeds and bandwidth are garbage for the price people pay for that sort of thing. To be fair about it, however, your biggest issue with Starlink is the surveillance, as it could be offered for free in the future. However, if that's the case, it's our data we pay with instead of some sort of monetary value.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the privacy part is a huge factor too. Yes the speed and performance was very good for me, especially since I am rural. I wouldn't go for starlink unless it paid me enough to pay for a different ISP

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you can easily use a VPN at the router level for you (as long as you have a modem set to bridge mode, and bridge a router of your choice to it), and that way, you'll at least protect yourself a bit (DNS comes first).

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely, those are great tips for being safe, but my money would still go to musk, and that I can't abide. While its very difficult sometimes to avoid putting money in questionable places we try to vote with our wallets

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago

It unfortunately goes to a Khazar (I'm a partial Khazar, what most of y'all call a partial "Jew"), so I get the sentiment.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can simply opt out of it for now. Eventually... good luck ~~if~~ when Starlink enshittifies.

FTFY

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today -2 points 2 days ago

You don't need to do a humiliation ritual about it, thank you very little.