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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 87 points 2 months ago (4 children)

As a German, many of my countrymen and -women are rather embarassing.

[–] redditmademedoit@piefed.zip 23 points 2 months ago (55 children)

Germany has done a lot of good with green energy too, so it's not all bad

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago

I think everyone is embarrassed by their fellow citizens

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The article generalizes to a dangerous degree. It‘s really just an opinion piece. You can say the same thing about every single country. All you have to do is find one person who feels attached to combustion engines.

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[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's not "emotionally hard to accept" it's financially hard to purchase.

[–] InabaResident@feddit.org 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

While I would agree, many people really do hate the idea of electric cars for no other reason than nostalgia for combustion engines. But it's changing.

[–] placebo@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

There are definitely die-hard fans of combustion engine cars, but realistically, the majority would gladly switch if electric cars were affordable and the infrastructure was in place. However, EU imposed tariffs on Chinese electric cars while local manufacturers failed to provide accessible options.

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[–] B0rax@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

I know plenty people that are buying new cars (not cheap ones) and are deliberately not going electric. It is not about the money for some people…

[–] Swemg@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Muh big machine vroom vroom. Some people are so dumb 🤦🏻

[–] gabelstapler@feddit.org 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I doubt this is a majority speaking. A few people may be petrol heads and love the roaring sound of a v engine (or an underpowered r4 with a loud exhaust). Most Germans drive standard cars, where the manufacturer is trying to make the engine as writer and smooth as possible. Their real fear is that their electric car won't take them the 1500km to their holiday destination, without any stops, with a caravan in tow, which they will do once per year.

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

Their real fear is that their electric car won’t take them the 1500km to their holiday destination, without any stops, with a caravan in tow, which they will do once per year.

And they can do that with fast charging and there are enough fast chargers. This fear is going to go away, as friends and family members buy EVs. The sales numbers are pretty good and prices for EVs are falling, so this is probably going to happen in a lot of cases. Especially with "cheap" German branded EVs like the VW ID.Polo and new subsidies. Germany is past the early adopter phase for EVs and in the early mass market phase already.

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[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Our electric car is currently in the shop and we got a IC one as a replacement. I can't even express how much it annoys me to feel the car shift (at least its an automatic) and make noise when I accelerate. And that's a quality car, so it's muffled already.

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

after riding in an electric car, every IC engine sounds like a tractor

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

We really get spoiled in our EVs, ngl.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every time I drive: "Why can't my car be more quiet?"

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Me, constantly, about everything: "Why can't it all be more quiet?"

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

BEV sales in France are 20% of cars sold and in Germany it is 19.1% in 2025. So it is pretty similar, but Germany has had much faster growth recently, so it is very possible that this is going to change this year.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It‘s almost as if this portrayal of Germans through a French lens is rather… emotional. Heh.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

BS, the vast majority of German drivers are frugal about spending money for fuel and prefer efficiency over power. There will always be the minority gearheads who will scream the loudest.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No offence intended but Duh. People who are passionate about something dont want it banned. I'm one of those people and yes we will push back because we all know most of the worlds polution is caused by big buisness and industry. When people talk about banning ALL combustion engines it reads to me like "recycling will save the environment"

Most of the worlds driving population doesnt give a fuck about driving enjoyment or feel any real passion for driving or cars. The enthusiasts and enthusiast cars arent the lions share of the problem. If the electric grocery getters were significantly cheaper the vast majority of people will adopt them. Id gladly only take my petrol engine out for special occasions if I could also afford an EV to get stuck in traffic in.

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[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I think this article should be assumed more at the lobby of the combustion car industry with their conservative stubbornness and less against the individual Germans.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

German newspaper: french eat frog.

[–] nikalrest@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

They have a deep relationship with trains too, but things are getting worse every year..

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

If you have difficulty letting go of your emotional attachment to vroom vroom, then you need to seek help

Hell,neven electrical cars are bad, they won't be THE solution, but try explaining that to car brains

[–] fluxx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Many Germans - dozens even! I mean, you will always have internal combustion enthusiasts and that is ok - they should be free to practice their hobby so long as they don't bother others too much. But I imagine they would daily drive an ev on most days if they found it more convenient and drive their hobby cars on special occasions.

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[–] Jimbel@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

German here..... this is bullshit. Of course some people love combustion cars. But most people doesnt really care. Moste people care for price, safety, and functions.

[–] duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not just noise, and not just cars.

The sound of "fast" for me is a liquid cooled two stroke motorcycle engine. Imprinted on them in my teens. And the smell of "fast" is burned fully synthetic two stroke oil. It's been thirty years and I still get a positive emotional reaction to hearing and smelling a "modern" two stroke engine running.

These days I drive a "boring" emissions compliant diesel (not a VW 😜) and ride a four stroke. But I deeply understand the emotional connection people have to the sensory experience of their vehicles. For me it's freedom, excitement, speed, challenge.

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I don’t know how valid it is these days, but when I was last in Germany in 1989, I asked my much older cousin about automatic vehicles.

Conceptually he knew what they were and that Americans drove them, but aside from large commercial vehicles - and it was rare at the time even there - he had never come across a consumer vehicle with an automatic transmission in his life. Like, everything at the time was stick and three pedals on the floor. Everything. If you wanted an automatic it had to be special-ordered and shipped in at significant expense from America or something like that

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[–] BigShammy80@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I would immediately buy an electric car if i had a loading station at home... with the loading infrastructur in germany and the costs, it's simply not viable for me.

My coworker has a home with solar on the roof and a wall box, he basicly drives for free.

[–] gajustempus@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I switched to an EV in 2019 whilst living in a flat. No chance to charge at home, very limited public charging opportunities, with the next public charger a 20 minute walk away and ONE fast charger on the other end of town, a 30 minute drive.

It did work despite all these issues. And now, 2026, charging is so much less of an issue. Almost every supermarket has some kind of Fast Charger available. Just look at it if it's EnBW, MER, EWE or whatever else, pay the 5-10 Euros per month for their subscription and you'll charge for almost the same price like home. And, as most of us go shopping at least once a week, that's a huge nothingburger there.

Just give it a try. Maybe rent an EV is a good start. But be careful: Driving an EV is addictive. Once you've tasted it, you don't want to go back

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[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I hear more and more people in Germany saying „my next car is going to be electric“ and sales are ramping up. This starts now that the tabloid media reduced their anti-propaganda and it’s generally not a big topic anymore. People don’t feel pushed anymore and can form their own opinion by seeing others live a normal life with electric cars.

[–] baconmonsta@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

We move through life facing events that are emotionally hard to accept. It's built in like that.

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Too bad for them?? We really love the sounds and looks of old steam trains but understand that they’re not the grandest for the environment so we prefer electric trains over all.

[–] d4n@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

German here. Bought an electric Car. Can't avoid the future 😅

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[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I'd argue that a lot of Germans are rightfully nostalgic about the quality of cars from before the automotive industry pioneered enshittification in the mid 2000s. Electric cars weren't even viable back then because of the state of battery technology. That only became decent well after all cars had already been thoroughly enshittified, so there is no way of buying a non enshittified electric car, because nobody is even making one.

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