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[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

By that, they mean they're forming a group to oppose AI, right?

...Right???

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[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reading the article, I think at least to oppose centralised players that DoS the internet, congest our electricity infrastructure and pollute the environment, and try to bypass democracy through regulatory capture. That captures quite a few of the dark sides of the current AI hype that I'm unhappy about, so let's hope that works out.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 3 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

How do they propose to fight bot-crawlers, environmental damage and regulatory capture by creating more AI?

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Steelmanning the argument, I'd say: you could outcompete the companies doing those things, e.g. by giving people AI that runs on their device and is ethically trained.

It might seem hard to compete at the moment, but given that there'd be no costs to running them, I don't think it's necessarily impossible: even if the quality is lower, it's very hard to beat free.

Hopefully, if the OpenAIs of this world go bankrupt, they'll stop hammering, say, OpenStreetMap.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 19 hours ago

The only alternative to bad AI is, according to Mozilla, more AI. But good AI, wholesome AI. With more guardrails, so the stormtroopers stop falling off catwalks.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

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[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The nonprofit, also the parent of Firefox, is investing in artificial intelligence startups that are working on safety and governance issues in AI.

[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s amazing to me how so many supposed capitalists (the folks that should be at the forefront of smart investing), are throwing money straight into the fiery pit that is AI. It’s like watching an arms race between Fallout corporations.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's because they have taken too much of the economy for themselves. Too much wealth in the hands of too few. The wisdom of crowds dissipates and they move as much more of a herd, and more erratically. Things begin to swing from one shiny object to another more quickly, with nothing to keep their greed in check

[–] kbal@fedia.io 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't blow all the money on GPUs Mozilla, we need you to keep developing Firefox at least until Servo is ready to take over.

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It doesn't sound to me like any GPUs will be bough for this? The comments about having fewer resources and being at a financial disadvantage implies to me like they know there's no winning by trying to be the next OpenAI - none of the mentioned allied companies appear to be doing anything like that either.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure what the grand strategic vision entails, but if the GPUs are not bought but only rented that can be even more expensive.

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

Heh true, but only if they're rented for long enough to make the total rental costs outweigh the cost of buying them new. Given that that bubble's going to pop some day, renting still seems like the less risky strategy 😅

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fuck is Servo? (from someone thoroughly annoyed at Mozilla's FireFox)

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Servo is new web engine that Mozilla was building with Rust. Both Servo and Rust were initially developed by brilliant Mozilla engineers, cast aside by their incompetent, corrupt leadership and only thrived when they were unyoked from Mozilla, where good ideas go to die

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sounds quite interesting.

Damn it, Mozilla used to be good... When is the world going to learn that business majors are cancer!?

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

I'm overdosing on the cringe ☠️

[–] j4k3@piefed.world 2 points 1 day ago

Let me know when they create an alternative to transformers, pytorch, and create a tokenizer without the Open AI QKV hidden layers of alignment. That is where all the fuckery is happening. This is standard and used for all models. It is totally proprietary and a primary reason why they are "open weights" but not Open Source.

[–] MantisToboggon@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

That sounds gayer than 5 guys having sex with 6 guys.