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[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well yeah.

I can buy a Ford Ranger Raptor for $65k or a Toyota Tacoma Trail Hunter for $65k. I know that the Toyota out performs the Ranger in nearly every meaningful way and has a history of lasting twice as long without major maintenance.

Fords and Chevy have always been marketed as the working class car/truck, they're supposed to be cheap, capable and tough. With the idea of the owner performing self maintenance. But now they are some of the most expensive and ridiculously out of proportion vehicles on the road. On paper they're impressive but worthless in less than 5 years, so buy one used and hope you can get 5 more years before it falls apart.

One of their selling points was they were mass produced American made and assembled. But now most of the vehicles are built and mostly assembled in other countries, with only the final stages in the US so they can avoid import taxes.

Ford/Chevy/Chrysler have destroyed themselves and just because they have an office the US doesn't make them US automakers when they don't make automobiles in the US anymore. They never should've gotten US government bailouts. If anything the bailout should have come from countries where their factories are actually located. Fuck em.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're really exaggerating the reliability of the cars lol. I own a 10 year old Cadillac and it's running perfectly fine with mostly basic maintenance.

Its funny how most foreign cars are built exactly the same way now. With a lot of the "Foreign" cars actually being more American made than the "Domestic" brands lol

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I own a 10 year old Cadillac and it's running perfectly fine with mostly basic maintenance.

That's like the bare minimum lmao. I would hope a 2015/2016 anything functions as it should in 2026. We've got a 2015 Toyota Highlander w/120k miles that still looks and drives like new. I change the oil somewhere between every 5000-8000 miles. It's had one battery replacement. I'm considering a trans fluid change mostly just because I feel like it.

Hell, my 2008 Toyota Sienna - with 274k rough miles - is one of the few vehicles I regularly take on multiple custody related 500-mile roadtrips a year, without hesitation.

Its funny how most foreign cars are built exactly the same way now. With a lot of the "Foreign" cars actually being more American made than the "Domestic" brands lol

It only took GM until the 2000s to figure that out, and they still took a look at NUMMI and said "Nah, that's too hard".

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

I'm not bragging lol. The person I was replying to was talking like they disintegrate as soon as you drive them off the lot which just isn't true is all I'm saying

[–] twisted@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yea because they’re spoiled. Every time they are doing poorly, instead of having to do better to keep themselves running they just get a big helping of taxpayer money from the government.

[–] stepan@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago
[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Their cars cost way too much and the quality went down so far that foreign auto's are the jewels these days.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As someone not from the US, what are the big three? I'm guessing Ford is one, but what are the other two?

[–] twisted@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

General Motors: Chevy, Cadillac, GMC etc. Chrysler: Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Ram etc.

Although Chrysler is now owned by some group called Stellantis which also own Fiat.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Im not sure why Stallantis is still included in "the big three" considering they're a European company. Ford, GM, and Tesla are the real "big three" these days.

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago

The overall cost per vehicle is likely covering that market cap making them similarly profitable likely, at least IMHO since crar prices are fn stupid

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] stepan@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago