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[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Labour government, going full authoritarian. Handing the government to Reform on a platter. Starmer is more conservative than the tories judging by what he's gotten done. Nevermind what he's said, he's done more damage than the tories did in 10 years or whatever.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

But some advisor told them they need to court the right!🀣

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago

The mythical swing voters will come in droves! You see your average voter really wants to be fucked without consent by big money, but they also want gay marriage, their lawmakers to express concern about the lack of lube used in fucking unwilling citizens, and to throw some crumbs to the deserving fucked.

To address some of the damage from selling us out to the plutocracy, notably not to address the selling out, the cause of the problems.

Whom else are you going to vote for? And yes that's rhetorical because they hate you and want you to die (as the left,) and would rather the country fall than see some moderate reform that revokes newly acquired license their donors chiseled from our corrupt lawmakers.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes because the FBI have never done anything controversial.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think this is less to do with emulating the US and more to do with dealing with crime that crosses county lines without having to involve London.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

By "crime," of course you are referring to people having opinions that differ from the government's. Those not supporting Israel, or god forbid protesting it, an environmentalist, a climate protester. Soon any and all issues, which they will have at their fingertips with every single thing you've said or done or looked at parsed by half baked ai programs like palantir.

Something is wrong with everyone's brain. Seriously I'm not just saying that.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I was mostly thinking of things like county lines gangs who exploit our current fragmented police system to fall between the cracks.

I'm upset by the recent PA arrests but i have some sympathy for the police here. They have been put in this situation by the government proscribing the org and they have to enforce the law. The protesters know this of course - almost any other formulation of the words "action", "support" and "Palestine" would be fine.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Protest was basically illegalized earlier out there if the government is opposed to it I don't know if you missed that bit, it's not just the fake terror label, and it's not just in the UK either, the main targets are the environmental movement in some respects (some us states as well, by different legal means, which are unconstitutional here but our courts are traitors.)

They've charged a bunch of people with serious serious felonies for protesting, prior to any terror designations, and related to climate. Then they forbade the defenses that got a bunch of them acquitted. Separately your starmer just cancelled the magna carta's jury trials for up to 3 years in prison, without a goddamned fight, somehow I'm angrier about this than you guys.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

somehow I’m angrier about this than you guys.

Perhaps your news sources are giving a slightly biased view of what's going on in the UK?

It's certainly not illegal to protest in the UK - but there have always been public safety concerns. The right to protest doesn't give protesters free reign to cause massive disruption as some of the more controversial tactics of "Extinction Rebellion" had. While Magna Carta was an important document in our history its not an inviolable constitution - for one things most of us are not Baron's. We've always had magistrates and non-jury Judge trails - the current proposals don't abolish them but do change the boundaries of what will automatically be a jury based trial. We shall see if they get through the legislature unopposed.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I guess that's it, you don't even know what is going on. Trusting the wrong people. Taking away the right to protest, jury trials, allowing bad faith terror designations and accusations of supporting them for protesting the same issue without mentioning them, as reported in the guardian podcast.

That you would accept all of that by your own politician you voted for, says it all. You are probably one of the more informed ones too sadly, hopelessly misled by some of the worst people on the planet. 3 years in prison without a fucking jury trial, 1 was unacceptable. Your ancestors would be ashamed.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ideally that's what it will be, but I'm wary of how often they themselves refer to it as "the British FBI".

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure who is referring to them as the British FBI - it seems to be an unattributed quote.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

β€œThe current policing model was built for a different century. We will create a new National Police Service – dubbed 'the British FBI' - deploying world class talent and state of the art technology to track down and catch dangerous criminals,” said UK Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood.

The government themselves are referring to it that way.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

MI5 aren't a law enforcement agency but a intelligence organisation. They do work with the police though.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

They probably refuse to manufacture cases against israeli, climate, and environmental protesters. So they figured they needed this one. Your party in power aren't you glad they won?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I don't think they do any actual policing.