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I had been asked to give a keynote speech at a conference at Columbia University's Journalism School. It was January 2002. Two planes had been flown into the twin towers of the World Trade Center months earlier and you could still feel how wounded the city felt. You could read it in the faces of New Yorkers you spoke to.

But it was the words of one of his classmates that come back to me now. He had arrived in New York just a few days before 9/11 from his native Pakistan to study at Columbia. He likened the United States to Imperial Rome.

"If you are lucky enough to live within the walls of the Imperial Citadel, which is to say here in the US, you experience American power as something benign. It protects you and your property. It bestows freedom by upholding the rule of law. It is accountable to the people through democratic institutions.

"But if, like me, you live on the Barbarian fringes of Empire, you experience American power as something quite different. It can do anything to you, with impunity… And you can't stop it or hold it to account."

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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 44 points 19 hours ago

Well, we've managed to undo WWII and Civil Rights.

The Project 2025 plan is to undo Women's suffrage, WWI and the Civil War. too.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 16 hours ago

As we return to violence, hate and force all humanity faces a challenge. FTFY.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, yes we are headed towards another global war, citizens are being gunned down in the streets, but what about the billionaires?

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

They will make a ton of money and use the chaos to target their critics

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

They will get theirs

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The world knows what the American empire and Western civilization are. Maybe Americans and Westerners don't and that's why things are seemingly so shocking. And it's a very exciting time for any nation outside of the West, a dangerous time but one for perhaps positive changes and self determination.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 24 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Positive changes and self determination? I feel like increasingly more "might makes right" world with more countries feeling free to bully their neighbors is going to cause the opposite. At least there was some, however tiny, effort in pretending that wasn't how it worked.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world -4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

There was no effort, tell that to the victims of the American empire, of Israel, who quite literally raped women while wearing their underwear, what there was in the West was spin. Nobody has ever been more might makes right than them, Pax Americana was just subjugation, but conflict, especially in such a chaotic times, is inevitable. But I bet that, the moment Israel stops being supported by America and has to deal with their neighbours cordially and normalize, peace will come to the Middle East (barring another American/Western incursion), even the UAE and Saudi Arabia would have to play along, because it's hard to sell war to people who aren't amoral and bloodthirsty, really.

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

So you prefer the alternative multipolar order in which the USA, China, Russia and (maybe) India project their will in their regional influence zones by strength. That is certainly a point of view.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There was no effort

Dunno how you understood what I wrote but bringing freedom, liberty, civilization, whatever, that was the tiny effort to pretend it wasn't just about subjugation and resources.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What liberty was brought? Liberty by enforcing your systems and puppets? Freedom from their resources and lives? Civilization? What's in Western civ besides violence, man? That's what was brought. No, the tiny effort was the SPIN, the narratives, that repeated enough times can sound true, I guess? And yes, even the spin is gone, which is dangerous for Americans more than the rest of the world, because it means the people in power 1)are not focusing externally as much (but they're still vampires, ofc) 2)think they're past needing to pretend to have values.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 15 hours ago

You might've missed the word "pretending" in my first reply.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 19 hours ago

As close to honest I've ever seen from a Western venue.

The 1973 coup in Chile against left-wing Prime Minister Salvador Allende "wasn't orchestrated by the CIA but the United States said it would accept a coup", he added.

Lol. Yes it was.