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Toyota, Progressive Insurance, and a data analytics firm are now being accused of collecting detailed personal driving information without proper consent

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Welp, here goes any chance I'm buying a Toyota as a next car

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think all cars spy on you now. But yes, definitely not Toyota.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Mazda has a process to opt out on data collection I heard though. Not the best but it's better than nothing. But I'm holding onto my 10 year old "dumb" car until it turns into a pile of rust.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

recorded “hard braking” event

This has always confused me. We're incentivizing hoping the vehicle slows down enough when someone cuts you off...?

I can understand recording extreme acceleration, but deceleration to not hit something being "bad" is strange

[–] copacetic@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

I would assume it is not about the braking itself. However, if there is a crash, then it might interesting if there was a hard braking right before or not.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it's about frequency. If you break hard because other drivers are shit, you'll do so at a rate comparable to others. If you break hard more frequently, then you are probably the problem.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

It at least wasn't when they first implemented it (when you plugged it into your OBD2 port for a "discount" on insurance). Any time you braked over some threshold, it would beep at you

Riding with a friend who had one, he'd always get way too close to other cars when slowing down because he didn't want to brake too hard

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

All carmakers are doing that, not just Toyota. If someone posts a similar report about China's BYD you are whatabouted to death, but if it is about a non-Chinese carmaker, there are no whataboutisms.

Is the data collection good or bad now? Should we have digital sovereignty in Europe and other democracies or just import ChEaP cHiNeSe CaRs?

[Edit typo.]