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[–] nroth@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

I was in Austin, TX not long ago, and they were swarming the whole city. I think people just made less of a deal about it there.

[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 hours ago

I did some math.

Florida population: 23M

Florida undocumented/capita: 1 in 19

Minnesota population: 5.8M

Minnesota undocumented/capita: 1 in 58

[–] JackBinimbul@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 hours ago

I'm not disputing the facts here, but don't think that immigrants in Texas are going unharassed.

[–] will@piefed.zip 4 points 9 hours ago

Don't forget about Maine, which ICE is gearing up for next, probably because Governor Mills sticking up against Trump.

Not sure how accurate this is, but Maine has a whooping 5,000

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

Arm all Minnesotans and Illinoisians

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 35 points 20 hours ago

Tim Walz hurt his feelings during the election. Trump couldn't even find Minnesota on a map he's just unbelievably fragile and petty

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

ICE is obviously a secret police force. This was already clear when the regime (with extensive support from the Democrats btw) approved a budget for this "agency" that exceeds the military spending of medium-sized countries.

What is so difficult to understand about this? The economic elite in the US, which has been ruling the country de facto for ages, now wants to transition to a more Russian-style system (open autocracy with corresponding repressive measures), and ICE is ideally suited to make undesirable dissidents disappear.

I think everyone has been aware of this since around February 2025, except apparently the US citizens, who, despite all the absurdity, still cling to the illusion that the US is a constitutional state or even a democracy - which has not been the case for at least 30 years.

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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

We know. But more people should.

The whole point of the government shutdown was to start riots. The Republicans wanted to take healthcare from millions. The Democrats stopped them, but the cost was SNAP (food stamps) benefits. The Republicans were willing to starve their voting base to push the healthcare cuts — either would likely result in riots. Now it's literally attacking Americans. The goal is to push martial law and suspend elections. That is the whole point.

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 16 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I live in a hard red area and a huge number of families here depend on SNAP and food stamps. They are also heavily armed.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 minutes ago

So?

I mean, a lot of people who are heavily armed, prior to 2020, used the historical justification of the Second Amendment to justify being heavily armed. That a well-regulated militia (guys who know how to handle guns, essentially) was necessary to protect the country from tyranny. Only, a lot of these guys (who voted red and who didn't vote blue) sat back and let tyranny take over. They either wanted it to happen, or they had the opportunity to vote against it and chose not to.

So I gotta ask of guys like that: what does it matter they're armed? At this point they're all just cosplaying. Because they had the opportunity to do what their forefathers did and they did fuck-all about it.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 20 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry. The Great Leader will speak on Foxnews saying that he had to remove the food stamps because of any racist shit and they will use those firearms to hunt non-whites as if they were paid for it.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 11 hours ago

Obama did it!

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 18 hours ago

If you're friendly with any of them, make sure that when push comes to shove they're robbing the local Walmart and not their neighbors.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

And with a minimum of three more years of this, they will eventually get what they want. There is no way that this administration ends without the US military acting against domestic Americans, at some point. It is going to happen.

As much as I'm tempted to play the accellerationist and demand that we give them what they're asking for, I know that we can't rip off the bandaid like that. Americans are not yet mentally prepared to take up arms against their government. The government will strike first, after they exhaust all attempts to get the people to make the first move. Trump needs martial law or some equivalent immunity before his time in the Oval Office is up.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 minutes ago

They already have. They executed a woman on the streets because she saw too much, or they thought she did. She didn't do anything wrong, but they decided that she needed to die rather than be allowed to leave peacefully, as she was trying to do. She was a white woman, not an immigrant. (She was also gay, but they probably didn't know that at the time.) And they still executed her right then and there on the spot.

Side note: is your avatar the playable character from Noita?

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 60 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Donald trump is not intelligent enough to create this plan. Let’s not forget he is only the figurehead for an entire movement.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 26 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Let's also not forget that, unlike Trump, the powers behind the throne don't get SS protection.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

But they have way better private security don't they?

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

The people behind him are making these plans. Trump only interests are money or things that look rich, which is why it's so easy to believe he wanted a ballroom. These Holocaust 2.0 steps that are happening are likely the work of Stephen Miller and Peter Thiel.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

And that movement is steered by people who have been obsessively planning for this their entire adult lives.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Wasn't sure if this was just a population thing, so:

State | population | Undocumented est |  % undocumented
TX    |     31M    |     2.0 M        |   6.4%
FL    |     23M    |     1.2 M        |   5.2%
IL    |     13M    |     0.59 M       |   4.5%
MN    |     5.8M   |      100 k       |   1.7%
CA    |     39M    |     2.9 M        |   7.4%
[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

It basically is. California has the most, then texas, then Florida. All around the same percentage.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If 5-ish% of most state populations are undocumented, doesn't that make it even more bizarre to go into Minnesota, where they don't even have half the national average?

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Bizarre yet utterly predictable, seeing as it's not actually about immigration.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

MN has a substantially lower percentage, so not a population thing.

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I hate to burst your bubble, but ICE is all over both Florida & Texas, your corporate news media simply isn't reporting it.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Probably because people there are mostly "okay with it". If there were big protests going on in Houston or Jacksonville, we'd hear about it.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 8 points 18 hours ago

Also the leadership of those states is aligned with the federal government, it's a lot less safe to be a protestor down there.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

There are way more agents in Minnisota right now.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 points 18 hours ago

Yeah they were at first, but they've already normalized to it.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 22 points 23 hours ago

Even my hard red family member told me they want to incite violence. I couldn't tell if he thought it was good or bad though.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 18 hours ago

Clear as day.

[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe the Republican states should try leftist solutions for solving illegal immigration.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 18 hours ago

The cruelty is the point

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

This is middle school level retaliation. Conservatives are immature turds.

[–] solomonschuler@lemmy.zip 6 points 21 hours ago

Simply a matter of not being overturned and impeached in the second midterm election which then trump will have to face his crimes. Its life or death to him and his fellow mercenaries, so by attacking democratic states like Minnesota, and (eventually) New York, he has a fighting chance to continue his presidency for 2 more years.

This is my theory of why he's attacking minesota and other democratic states, it's not a matter of how many immigrants there are.

[–] bananapinball@sh.itjust.works 8 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

"There are X undocumented"

Are they documented or undocumented, I don't follow.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago

Undocumented just means an immigrant who is likely here illegally. There are ways to determine the amount of people currently living/residing in a city without them having officially registered with the government (e.g. census surveys historically never cared if a person was illegal or not, they only cared about counting people).

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

There’re estimates, but since we want to play coy and side with fascist dictators who are using special military forces against their own people for not voting for them:

If the problem is people crossing the southern border, why is ICE in the most northern states?

Ok, now argue the actual point.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Well, they're not going after the Florida immigrants. Because the Bratvas are fucking insane, and they will start a war with ICE.

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