So the eating of the meat is okay, but joking about it is over the line?
Funny
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Cognitive dissonance
More like disassociation. They just don't connect killing animals to eating meat. So they don't feel a cognitive dissonance.
Like... People living comfortable in captialistic countries/societies, don't think they personally kill all victims of capitalism. They just don't connect these things. They disassociate their life and living standards from the 'others'.
TIL
Yeah. Basically same as buying shit from places known for child and slave labour.
Meat is murder. Tasty, tasty murder.
We got here as a species by tasty tasty meat. Some steak fries and light salad are optional.
I think that has mostly been debunked. Even the hunter gatherers were much more gathering than hunting, in the big picture. And fishing is probably more relevant than meat (if we're making that distinction). And later it was really agriculture that made our species what it is and it's very much the grains (and rice) that made the big difference.
Not a vegan btw.
I think you are giving a very eurocentric description of early humanity
You think? Most of the great fishing civilisations I think of are (South East) Asian, Indian, Japanese etc.
(Some of that might be based on Age of Empires info)
I'm mostly referencing your allusion to agriculture as a developmental milestone
Heh, fish are meat.
I agree. Still, the distinction is a very cultural one. So many cultures, even civilisations can trace their beginning back to a coastline or river. Hunting things like mammoths was actually quite rare, but it makes for better stories. Taxonomically there isn't even such a thing as a "fish".
I can't fucking stand Gordon Ramsay. I grew up with an abusive stepfather. I think the difference is when the abuse is from one's actual parent, it starts earlier and is internalized as normal. My stepfather wasn't in the picture until I was five, so I already had an established personality, such as it is.
Funny how English has
"Beef", "Pork", "Lamb"
when in some languages its just
[The Word for the Animal]+[The Word for "Meat"]
Literally, your language influences how you think.
My "native" languages are Cantonese and Mandarin and I always knew where the meat came from, like its literally in the word itself. [牛肉,豬肉,羊肉]
Interesting that the second character looks like a skeleton torso, since characters are kind of pictograms too. I assume that one means "meat"? ( sorry, duh, you just said so)
Lamb just means young sheep. The dinner version for sheep is mutton.
This language quirk for calling the meat version of an animal different comes from French influence, when the English aristocracy spoke French in court. Beef, pork and mutton comes from the Old French words buef, porc and moton. Which just means ox, swine and sheep.
Funny how English has
Those are not actually English words. "Pork" is from French at least. It's a euphemism for the english "swine". Meat is a luxury for the extremely privileged.
Youtube short on topic: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/63DYCz9P1XM
You say that but so you have any idea how long it took my daughter to realize Chicken, the animal, is the same as Chicken, the food?
I think mine already figured out by 2. This kid keeps making the animal noises of any animal we happen to be eating. They're also doing "woof woof" at hot dogs.
TikTok outrages should never become news headlines.
But it's the Daily Fail, so 🤷
That said - as if he could tell what each one would taste like.
Headlines often frame moments for shock, but context usually tells a much fuller story than a single clip or quote.
Yeah outrageous! We have the animals transported, killed, slaughtered and packed behind closed doors so no one buying meat would have to feel guilty. This way the product has no affiliation to a living animal. Why would he do this, now Gen Z/A might think meat comes from animals. This will cost the meat industry money so he might end up with a horse's head in his bed.
