You do not actually understand imperialism, so every time the argument moves into political economy you retreat into vibes, NGO articles, and moral equivalence.

Ad personam, zero arguments.

You keep flooding links about Russia funding far-right groups as if anyone denied that.

And yet, you're trying to prove, that russian far right wing regime, and its imperialism it's not a supporter of far right in the west.

Funding does not create fascism.

So, funding very radical organizations does not creates them? Look what mostly west imperialism did in the middle east just by funding religious radicals. Funding far right organizations in the hard times, it's like adding fuel to the fire.

If Russian money alone created fascism,

This is the point that no one is stated. This is your straw man argument, that you're trying to push for a long time, and then answering "russia is not the responsible". Keep your straw man for yourself.

“Here are some links” is not analysis.

Giving your the links from so many sources, from Al Jazeera to The Guardian and so on. In some links there were official photos from official meeting of far right parties from europe, and everything was happening in russia for russian money and they were proud ot if. And yet for you its not analyze.

Imperialism is not “any country with power.”

No one is stating that. Stop with your lies. Russia is an imperialistic country, best example is attack on Ukraine, or whet they did in Georgia, and all the bad things that they are funding in europe, and so on and so on.

Ok, let's go back to school, you will learn something. What is imperialism:

imperialism, state policy, practice, or advocacy of extending power and dominion, especially by direct territorial acquisition or by gaining political and economic control of other areas. Because it always involves the use of power, whether military or economic or some subtler form, imperialism has often been considered morally reprehensible, and the term is frequently employed in international propaganda to denounce and discredit an opponent’s foreign policy.

Britanica.

And what are the key parts of imperialism: Economic control? Yes, russia wants it for example in Ukraine or Belarus. Militarism - of course. Territorial expansion - of course, like attack on Ukraine, Cultural Influence - yes, funding far right wing shit in europe, or push of russian language in Belarus. What have i missed?

Of course Russia is not only imperialistic country. USA is way richer country, so they can send more troops around the world.

You accuse me of “skipping” China and the USSR in Africa.

Pretending that China or Russia is not as exploitive as west in the Africa, is a big lie. Please, stop charitiwashing of east imperialism exploiting Africa. Please, stop it.

You keep repeating that Eastern Europe is richer now. Yes. Because you became part of the imperial core’s labor chain.

No, it's because in europe and west we're at least pretending to respect human rights, labor laws, and thanks to situation after the war, middle class was created in the west, thus there's still some money left in the middle class (but thanks to the neoliberalism, oligarch slowly sucking it from us). In the post soviet countries, after the collapse of the soviets, oligarchs was able to take almost everything to themself, so there's not a lot left, and there's no middle class, there's very little consumption, people are poor, non educated, therefore economy is not very efficient.

Poland is a part of richer part of the world, so it's quite obvious that we're going to be richer. And remember, that Russia sold way more stuff, and start doing it way earlier than Poland. And yet, in Russia all the money goes to oligarchs. So regular people was not benefiting from this.

And now look on the China, and compare it to russia. China was in a pretty bad situation 30 years ago. But they invest tons and tons of money in the knowledge building, in the science, heavy industry, and so on, and now they are one of the biggest economy in the world. And in the same time, russia that was pretty rich 30 years ago, once again is very poor and shitty thanks to the oligarchs. There are a lot of bad things that we can say about state capitalism that is in the China, but still they are able to use neoliberalism in the west, and suck a lot of money from west, and bring it to China. Neoliberalism is way worst than state capitalism.

Cheap labor, subcontracting, offshoring,

And China is doing way more of that, and it's getting richer way faster. Russia is also doing that, but thanks to oligarchs, they are failing.

EU capital inflows integrated Poland upward while Africa and Latin America were pushed further down.

And yet, Chins, is the capitol of manufacturing cheap stuff, and most of the minerals and materials are coming to china from Africa and Latin America. China is benefiting way more from Africa than EU. Why are you skipping China here?

Calling China “state capitalism” while praising Nordic capitalism just reveals which ruling class you emotionally trust.

Why are you lying? It's so tiring, when I'm trying to give you some answers, and then you're lying all the time, and i have to send answers to straw arguments.

China is a state capitalist country. That's fact. What this have to do with Norway capitalism? I don't know. Norway is a social democracy with mixed market economy. Quality of life, and labor laws are way better in Norway. Norway build it's economy power, thanks to natural resources.

our hatred of “authoritarianism” is not political. It is aesthetic. You dislike governments that look rough while tolerating governments that politely manage exploitation.

DUDE STOP LYING_ stop ad personam. This is really rude.

As i said, i hate authoritarian regimes, that's why I'm not a fan of any ruling class, no matter is it in Soviet Union, China, USA, or any other part of the world. And you're pretending that imperialism and exploitation is mostly western problem. Stop lying.

This is why social democrats sided

And why Soviet Unions sided with Nazis in 1939, and they worked with Nazis on attack on Poland in 1939? And what this have to do with todays world? I have no idea.

And why are you trying to picture me as a fan of social democracy? I have no idea.

So stop lying.

You keep shouting “strawman” because you cannot answer structure with intention.

Ad personam, you're also creating a lot of ad personam, insults. Like this one.

You are emotionally anti-imperialist but analytically liberal. You oppose empire morally while repeating its framework intellectually. You believe imperialism is bad but refuse to analyze who runs the world economy.

More lies and insults.

BTW. Oligarchs and few selected groups are ruling world economy. I listed them somewhere earlier. And countries that you're protecting, russia and china, are part of many of these groups. But what this have to do with anything, i have no idea.

You want socialism but reject every historical attempt because it was “authoritarian,”

One more lie. Just because soviet union failed because ruling class emerged after few decades, and then it has nothing to do with socialism, or because china is state capitalism, it doesn't mean that i'm rejecting any socialist movements.

And if you stop lying, i can give you example of socialist movement that actual worked, but it was then attacked by all the authoritarian regimes:

https://kolektiva.media/w/pKgGZtPdpr8MBeMxNTQjGJ?start=35m53s

I'm happy that once again i can teach you something :)

You are angry at capitalism’s outcomes while defending its global architecture.

More lies. Just because I'm against russian imperialism and china state capitalism, remember that I'm also USA imperialism and exploitation of African countries. But at least, I'm admitting that Africa is exploited by west and east imperialistic countries.

That is why you think Russia explains fascism.

Expands maybe? But i gave you a lot of proofs that russia is supporting facist movements around the world. So you skipped the facts and proofs, and now you're pretending that i never send it ? Dude XD

ou are a child who lacks any understanding of the world beyond vibes if you don’t want to be called a liberal try moving beyond being one first before throwing a tantrum at it being pointed out.

Stop licking east imperialistic boots, russia is clearly imperialistic country, it's a far right wing authoritarian regime, and you're licking their boots so hard. I don't understand, what someone who supports far right authoritarian regime, is doing on this board. Are you a troll or something?

You can lie and insult me as much as possible, but this does not make you right, or far right wing imperialistic authoritarian russian regime, a force of good.