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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 15 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Seems like a no-brainer to me. Who knows if there are any complicated entanglements that would prevent us from doing so? Also, swing by China and grab a shitload of those EV's. It's time we gave the Canadian consumers a break.

[–] Scotty@scribe.disroot.org 11 points 20 hours ago

The Saab deal is not comparable with China's EVs imo, one difference being that the latter won't bring jobs in Canada but rather more dependence from an authoritarian government that seeks to lay ground for future coercion. In the end, that'll cost Canadian consumers way more than what they save with cheap EVs (that are at risk of being made by forced labor as we know).

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago

The problem with Chinese EVs is that Chinese governments are literally subsidizing overproduction of EVs over there. Many companies are operating at a loss and are trying to dump their overproduction overseas.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Pros for Saab

Saab confirmed that the promise of 12,600 jobs is linked to the sale of Gripen and GlobalEye aircraft to Canada.

By setting up factories in Canada, Saab would produce fighter jets and surveillance aircraft for both the Royal Canadian Air Force and the export market.

The GlobalEye aircraft would be produced in collaboration with Bombardier, whose Global 6500 jets offer the platform on which numerous surveillance systems and radars are installed. In Canada, the project is known as the airborne early warning and control (AEWAC) system.

Pros for Lockheed Martin

F-35 manufacturer Lockheed Martin says it also has significant economic benefits to offer in Canada, promising $15 billion in work if Canada maintains its full order. Discussions between the Canadian government and Lockheed Martin are ongoing, Joly said this week.

Cons for Saab

For now, Canada is preparing to receive 16 F-35s starting this year, and many military experts are raising questions about Canada's ability to integrate two new fighter fleets at the same time. Defence industry experts are also saying that Saab's jobs promises will need further scrutiny or explanations.

"We need to have a number that is based on military considerations, and that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. It seems that economic and political considerations are guiding this choice," he said.

Cons for Lockheed Martin

That report, and others, have stated that while the US cannot remotely take control of the jets themselves, it can neglect to upgrade the software.

Therefore, when parts of the F-35 break or need repairs, they need help from American contractors. And that gives the U.S. leverage over its allies.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Pros for Saab: Sweden has neither the means nor the intention to threaten Canada

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

That's fair. I was simply using what was in the original article and the secondary one I found that spoke of the issues with software and repair.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago

Economic and political reasons should absolutely be part of this discussion. And the SAAB came second in the decision on which jet to purchase.

[–] bluebadoo@lemmy.world -3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That headline alone made me rethink my sanity. Gripens? What’s a Saab? What apocalyptic thing is GlobalEyes?

I’m out of touch

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently you haven’t read the news in 5 years?

[–] bluebadoo@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Just not news about fighter jets apparently 🤷