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After the gestapo shot and killed Renee Nicole Good on January 7 during a fascist attack on Minneapolis, hegemonic media reacted by blaming Good for her death, saying it "was her own doing” and attacking her character by labeling her “a perpetrator” and “trained agitator.”

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

This is just starting, and this story is going to be with us for a long time. Soon they will return from their "investigation," and declare that The ICE Killer is innocent of all charges, and is back on the job somewhere. Announcing it is proof of their transparency. That will cause a huge outcry across the world, exacerbated by the fact that the MAGA government will be unrepentant and immovable.

Then Minnesota will charge him with murder, and demand he be turned over, and ICE will refuse. An arrest warrant will be issued, and he'll be found operating in some other city in a Blue state, and the governor and mayor of that state will work together to arrest and extradite him to Minnesota, which MAGA will fight at every step.

Then there will be a state trial, which MAGA will resist, and punishment, which will be appealed, all the way to the Supreme Court. In fact, SCOTUS may be consulted at multiple points of this process, stretching the time out even longer.

This is going to be a long, complicated slog.

[–] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Quick question:

If being in front of or near a car and it supposedly driving towards you is sufficient reason to kill someone in self-defense, what's to stop someone standing in front of a moving ICE car and shooting the occupants in self-defense?

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Rules for thee but not for me

They know it. Accusing fascists of hypocrisy accomplishes nothing, because they're not playing by the same rules as us. There is no logic to it, just projection of power. The more the strongman and the regime lies, the more power they have. They're not lying to be believed, but to say "What are you gonna do about it?"

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The argument that they are going to use is that ICE is law enforcement and disobeying their orders, whether conflicting or not, is unlawful and thus you deserve whatever happens to you

some real tread on me harder daddy shit

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

But you can not identify them, also being scared makes you do a split second decision apparently

some real tread on me harder daddy shit

Fascists gonna fascist.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The threat of violence that will be carried out in retaliation by the other agents of the state, and the fact that cops (ICE included) are legally allowed to do whatever they want.

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[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (12 children)

The total absence of human decency in these right wingers is appalling. And the fact that most of them are Christians - a religion that claims to be all about love and compassion - is a contradiction so monumental, I wonder how these people can sleep at night.

[–] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

Copy paste:


Related term: secular Christianity and cultural Chrisianity… Especially popular in America.

People identify as Christian, cling to the bible, cross, Jesus on the cross, religious symbology as totems or symbols which demonstrate they belong. But they don’t actually believe in God or what’s in the bible. It’s mainly virtue signaling or a dog whistle for white supremacy. In fact most of their core beliefs contradict many of the core tenents of Christianity.

Given fascists delight in acting in bad faith, don’t actually believe half of what they claim to believe, it’s not surprising that the religious right are often fascists. They experience no discomfort, because they don’t actually believe in Christ’s teachings

[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They are not christians, they use christianism as a shield and for whitewashing their actions. Same for zionists, they use judaism as a shield and to be able to shame call anti-semits to those that criticize them.

[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"No true scotsman" fallacy.

[–] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes and no.

Fascists delight in acting in bad faith and don’t actually believe half of what they claim to believe. For example, fascists often claim to be pro-free speech or that they love democracy. If I told you fascists weren't really free speech advocates or pro-democracy, you would likely not cite the no true Scotsman fallacy.

This being said, a lot of Christianity has been like this for a long time. So, meh.

[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You're talking to a 49 year old German.

When I was about 15 or 16, I once naïvely asked my grandmother why noone resisted Hitler. She got very angry, told me I knew nothing about the time, and how much good Hitler had done, and then told me to shut up.

She suddenly turned from this loving person into a stubborn, old, bitter and aggressive woman, showed a side I had never seen of her. So she was a counter example to not one, but two of your claims:

  • She was a real believer in fascism, and remained that even decades after the catastrophe fascism had plunged Germany and the world into.
  • She emphatically was not pro free speech and would absolutely not tolerate me saying anything against her belief.

And she was a woman who claimed to be of a strong Christian faith. I'm well aware that not all of her circumstances translate 100% to modern day America, however I'm still inclined to think that most American Christian fascists also truly believe in both fascism and Christianity, just like my grandmother did.

In other words, I stand by what I said - "They are not christians" is a no true scotsman fallacy used to try and manufacture a distance between Christianity and fascism that does not exist. These people are both, Christians and fascists, and saying otherwise is a bad attempt to absolve religion.

As I mentioned at the end of my comment:

This being said, a lot of Christianity has been like this for a long time. So, meh.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No, they're Christians. Sorry.

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[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Don't forget how much they were clutching their pearls about actual trained agitator Charlie Kirk and their crusade against anyone who didn't cry hard enough about it.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

Truly depraved and a sign of the end of times IMO... Sad days ahead...

[–] radiouser@crazypeople.online 7 points 1 day ago

You surely don't expect anything less? The propaganda machine never sleeps.

[–] ComRed@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

Here's an idea; what if the fascist US government doesn't send out psychotic nazi goons out into society to terrorize everyone, so situations like this wouldn't happen in the first place? And then blame it all on the victim.

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