94
submitted 11 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

BBC: The woman who successfully sued the website that matched her with a paedophile explains how she forced the site to close down. 'Alice', or A.M. as she was known in court says she feels "vindic...::"Alice" speaks exclusively to the BBC after her successful lawsuit against Omegle forced it offline.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] ExLisper@linux.community 61 points 11 months ago

I don't get it. So someone let 11 yo kid use internet unmonitored and it's the Internet's fault? Isn't it up to parents to know when their kid can go on the internet alone?

load more comments (6 replies)
[-] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 53 points 11 months ago

I feel this is a big win for her, she obviously suffered a horrible trauma and this website was what facilitated that.

I don't know how this is a win for the internet. This was a website that clearly said "we connect random strangers", and they did, and a fucked up thing happened as an improbable event based on human nature. It doesn't seem to be caused by some fundamental aspect of the way the website works. I don't really know how this could have been avoided. How would the website know who is a pedophile? How would the website know who is a child? I can't think of a way without fundamentally changing user identity on the internet. I'm not sure what this means for anonymous internet interactions.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] Zak@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This reminds me of Greyhound getting sued after a murder on their bus.

I don't like the implications of either. All responsibility for a crime should lie with the criminal, not the operator of the venue in which it occurred. In the case of Greyhound, it resulted in them frisking people boarding busses and banning pocket knives. In the case of Omegle, the site shut down. Both times, I think the world got a little bit worse.

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 11 months ago

I miss when Omegle was just text based. I made a friend from Czechia on there back in 2011.

Opening up video chats was asking for this to happen.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

In retrospective, it feels unreal that the site made it this far into 2023

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago

ChatRoulette is still around, which is nuts. That place was a cesspit 10 years ago, can't imagine now.

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

Hello from Czechia.

[-] Pat@kbin.run 28 points 11 months ago

As much as omegle was a cesspit, there are already even sketchier alternatives up and running. This will be a wild goose chase with no end in sight unless sites like this get rid of all privacy and log every single interaction and step up their moderation.

Like piracy sites and other illegal/grey areas, take one source down and two more will appear, or however the saying goes.

[-] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

These sites are the glory holes of the internet.

[-] FishFace@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Next year the city park will be forced to close down after the council was sued for by a woman who was allowed to meet a paedophile in it as a child.

Children need to be taught how to not get abused by strangers offline and online. If they aren't, it's not the fault of the place that allowed them to meet. When I was a child I was using the internet to talk to adults and had a great time. (The adults who had to deal with my crappy attitude before I learnt some netiquette probably had a less great time...)

[-] biHeart@programming.dev 35 points 11 months ago

Taught not to get abused? I think you mean “stranger danger” shit, which is taught but the way you phrased that is disturbing. It’s not a child’s job to “not get abused by ‘anyone’”. And all places in general should probably keep an eye on who comes in and out, except for niche/specialized services like vpns, warez, etc. That’s just called being responsible.

Parks and other ‘loose’ non-stores though shouldn’t be held responsible, I agree.

[-] FishFace@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I just wanted a phrase which encompassed "don't go home with strangers" and "don't send strangers photos of yourself" and all other things which either are, or lead to, abuse.

[-] thejml@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

A very large percentage of child abuse, kidnapping and pedo issues involve the child’s own family. “Stranger Danger” isn’t the solution.

[-] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

In the very specific set of examples in the above posts, it's basically only "Stranger Danger". It's literally about Omegle.

But I do very much agree with your point when talking in a wider context

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[-] FishFace@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

That doesn't have any bearing on a comparison between two different types of "stranger danger".

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

You forget that children can be easily manipulated as their brains are literally not capable of proper judgement in most situations

[-] FishFace@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Mm, I guess that's why the park needs to be shut/we can never let children go there unattended.

load more comments (18 replies)
load more comments (16 replies)
[-] stifle867@programming.dev 12 points 11 months ago

I really don't understand how you can "force" anyone to do anything over Omegle but I guess that's neither here nor there. The more important point is that it would have been better to take the opportunity to catch more pedos doing the same thing on this site. They're still out there just moved to different platforms now. It's not really the win she thinks it is. There's HIGHLY questionable/NSFL stuff even on TikTok and Google Photos.

[-] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Poor Peter File. Dude gets a bad wrap.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hey Peter! 👨‍🦽

[-] bizarrocullen@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Wow! I haven't heard of omegle since I left memebase in 2013.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago
[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago
[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


"I feel personal pride that no more children will be added to Omegle's body count," says the woman who successfully forced the infamous chat site to shut down.

Speaking for the first time since the platform was taken offline, "Alice" or "A.M." as she's known in court documents, tells the BBC she demanded the website's closure as part of an out-of-court settlement.

Omegle's popularity rose during the pandemic lockdowns in 2020, and was the subject of a BBC investigation which revealed that prepubescent boys were found to be explicitly touching themselves in front of strangers.

On Friday, a week after Leif Brooks closed his chat service with a lengthy statement, he added a sentence at the bottom: "I thank A.M. for opening my eyes to the human cost of Omegle."

Cyber Correspondent Joe Tidy speaks exclusively with child abuse survivor "Alice" and her legal team, as they prepare a case that could have major consequences for social media companies.

Alice's case is a legal landmark, as most social media lawsuits in the US are dismissed under a catch-all protection law called Section 230, which exempts companies from being sued for things that users do on their platforms.


The original article contains 1,218 words, the summary contains 197 words. Saved 84%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 22 Nov 2023
94 points (91.2% liked)

Technology

59081 readers
3419 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS