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This is not a good look. Far better to target things like private jets which are at the intersection of wealth and excessive emissions

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[โ€“] sexy_peach@feddit.org 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Might be a false flag, might be stupid people, might be mislead people.

We just have to keep going from here ๐Ÿด

[โ€“] Gaja0@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Attacking public infrastructure is how you get private infrastructure.

[โ€“] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 12 points 3 days ago

Or maybe target better, what if it cut power to ai data centers.

[โ€“] P00ptart@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

In America, our attacks on the grid are done by the right wing. It's strange how different we are, yet similar.

[โ€“] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

i'm going to call them ... hmm oh i know

Climate Action

i wonder what will become of them

although i agree with you this is much more likely a gang hired by russians through telegram

[โ€“] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As with the Hamas attack on October 7th and Al Qaeda's on 9/11, as with John Brown's murder or slave owners on the eve of the US civil war, as with the Indian independence movement outside of Gandhi, as with suffragette terror bombings in the early 20th century, as with unionist terror bombings in Europe in the 19th century, it's important to put terrorism in the context of the times.

Terrorism is bad, but it usually only exists in the context of far greater evils. Genocide, imperialism, colonialism, slavery, child labor, systeming oppression of women, and yes, climate change.

Of all of these, climate change will be the most deadly (though colonialism probably still has it beat for genocide). Entire nations are already being wiped off the map, and dozens more will follow. Hundreds of millions will die violently, with the people of Berlin as a group killing thousands of them though their present-day emissions.

In that context, focusing on condemning a couple of radicals who didn't even kill anyone is denying the gravity of the situation.

Every terrorist group was condemned at the time of the events. Many are now considered good in the eyes of history, and most of those have had their actions whitewashed by educational institutes dedicated to the status quo, or have had their results attributed to their pacifist compatriots.

I'm not saying anyone should engage in violence. There are plenty of people who need no encouragement if only you stop condemning and sanctioning them. Diversity of tactics has historically almost always been more effective than pacifism. So let us do our best in the way we like and let them do their best in the way they like.

And before anyone cites Chenoweth at me, read their paper and their later comments about how the paper is being misused to argue for pacifism. Then if you're surprised, maybe add Gelderloos' The Failure of Nonviolence to your reading list.

[โ€“] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

This was a singularly stupid choice of target if it was an actual left-wing group and not a bunch of Russian assets. Doubly so if a climate group โ€” we want to move home heating from fossil fuels to electricity, and this kind of attack makes it harder.

There's a reason it was mostly Nazis attacking substations in the US a couple years ago

[โ€“] Gudl@feddit.org 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How hard would it be to fly a drone into an aircraft engine and take out a private jet? Honest question, not that I'm planning on doing it tomorrow or anything, I just don't know much about drones or aircraft. I'm guessing it's pretty hard to do, otherwise it would have been done by now.

[โ€“] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

On the ground? Easy, on the air It'd be pretty hard trying to keep up with them unless you had a rocket propelled drone or something based for speed, and you'd probably get one chance before it's past you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wWA62CLeXw

You'd ideally want something explosive with shrapnel so proximity is less of a concern.

[โ€“] fizzle@quokk.au 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think rocket propelled drones are called missiles.

[โ€“] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 3 days ago

The video is literally a quadcopter FPV drone with a rocket engine.

[โ€“] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Missiles would typically have a warhead.

Birds do a great job of disabling planes and they don't have warheads, so YMMV I suppose.

[โ€“] Embargo@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Has anyone found the letter from Vulkangruppe? I'd like to have a little read.

[โ€“] Rhoeri@piefed.world -4 points 3 days ago

Protests over climate crisis, sets fire to things.

Fucking geniuses.