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[โ€“] PugJesus@piefed.social 42 points 1 week ago

Explanation: Not cities in general, but the city of Rome, specifically.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secessio_plebis

These secessions happened when Rome was still a single city rather than a massive, sprawling polity, so labor mobility was at a minimum. Lots of borders, both political and cultural. The seceding workers could not be replaced on short-notice, even at increased cost, or by temporary hires. No sending messages to a hostile neighboring city-state asking "Pretty please let us hire some of your filthy poors, even at double normal wages ๐Ÿฅบ"; you have to work things out with the workers you have before the crisis devours the entirety of your wealth!

[โ€“] Krono@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Secessio is a great start to a proud history of workers fighting for their rights, but history tends to clean up the details.

I always wonder how many scabs stayed back in Rome.

[โ€“] PugJesus@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

Secessio is a great start to a proud history of workers fighting for their rights, but history tends to clean up the details.

Just little reminders that fighting for our rights has always been possible, even if there may be... rather large differences in goals and motives over a vast gulf of time and culture.

I always wonder how many scabs stayed back in Rome.

Not enough, apparently!

[โ€“] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Truly impressive that they managed to organize that! I wonder if it would be easier or harder today; I'd asumme that authorities would be quicker with arrests and beatings these days if you organized that, plus the "seceding plebeians" have to go somewhere - you can't just hide an entire city's worth of workers these days and wild camping is illegal in most places.

Might be different in less developed countries.

[โ€“] PugJesus@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Portugal had a general strike just last month! It is still possible, even if unions aren't as strong as they used to be.

[โ€“] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

Damn, I haven't heard about that! I'm gonna go read up on it.