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So far, every country in the world has had one of two responses to the Trump tariffs. The first one is: "Give Trump everything he asks for (except Greenland) and hope he stops being mad at you." This has been an absolute failure. Give Trump an inch, he'll take a mile. He'll take fucking Greenland. Capitulation is a failure.

But so is the other tactic: retaliatory tariffs. That's what we've done in Canada (like all the best Americans, I'm Canadian). Our top move has been to levy tariffs on the stuff we import from America, making the things we buy more expensive. That's a weird way to punish America! It's like punching yourself in the face as hard as you can, and hoping the downstairs neighbor says "Ouch!"

And it's indiscriminate. Why whack some poor farmer from a state that begins and ends with a vowel with tariffs on his soybeans. That guy never did anything bad to Canada.

But there's a third possible response to tariffs, one that's just sitting there, begging to be tried: what about repealing anticircumvention law?

If you're a technologist or an investor based in a country that's repealed its anticircumvention law, you can go into business making disenshittificatory products that plug into America's defective tech exports, allowing the people who own and use those products to use them in ways that are good for them, even if those uses make the company's shareholders mad.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 76 points 6 days ago (4 children)

In light of recent events, other countries should simply stop recognizing US intellectual property claims as valid.

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In light of recent events, other countries should drag Trump to the ICC and thence straight to the gallows.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

LOL have you never heard of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act

Oh and guess who isn't part of the ICC?

I'd like to see these "other countries" drag Trump there. How? With what? This isn't Star Trek, you can't beam him mid-poop to the Netherlands.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If we can’t do it legally, we’ll just have to do it illegally. What’s important is that it gets done.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I mean, he's set the precedent - apparently it's now allowed for a country to just snatch the leader of a sovereign nation and run off with them

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Iirc this is an actual (as in offical and described in legislation) lever the EU can pull, unfortunately regardless of public sentiment many of its leaders are beholden US economic interests.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

They are becoming less beholden by the day for reasons Doctorow laid out.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes but they'd rather make money with the usa then do the smart thing

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're making way less than they could be because of lopsided "free" trade agreements.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 6 days ago

Still more than if they had to also implement some of the stuff

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Like, all IP? That seems very dangerous.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

Patent trolls.

[–] smeg@infosec.pub 31 points 6 days ago (2 children)

EU tech companies keep letting themselves be sold to US tech companies, or re-HQing to America.

Capitalism can't solve problems created by capitalism. The largest companies will always gobble up the competition, eliminating the alternatives.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Moving HQ to murica is usually done because of venture capitalists having it as a requirement for funding. If EU based startups want to be successful without it they require either funding from european VCs or figure out how to do compete without VC money.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Competition and markets authorities are empowered to block acquisitions and it's often high profile when it's done due to an unfriendly power like china trying to do it. The USA is now a more aggressive power than china so acquisitions by US companies ought to be blocked by default.

This may mean less money flows from the US into the European acquired companies, but tough shit, this is too important.

We need to realise that the status quo is not what we had two years ago, because Trump changed it. He's making the whole world poorer, and we can choose whether that poverty affects us monetarily (because we need to put money into replacing US tech) or more fundamentally - e.g. if he uses dependence on US tech to exert political control over European nations.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 6 days ago

We need to realise that the status quo is not what we had two years ago

We need to realise that the status quo is what we had two years ago!

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 8 points 6 days ago

Agreed. I like the spirit of Switzerland's "public money, public code" initiative. If they could do that for infrastructure, that'd be awesome.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The only real solution isn't reactivating roombas but cutting dependence on US goods and markets. The US market is highly desirable from a purely population angle but isn't essential today. Moving to an alternative to the dollar, expanding production of essential goods to other nations, etc.

If you really want to spite the US use retaliatory IP lifting. "Ok, US IP protections are now invalid."

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago

Just declare any simple script that does a wget on copyrighted information to be "AI". AI is immune from copyright infringement it seems.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago

Please do. Let this cess pool rot. Its not salvagable.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I like the DisEnshittification. Actually why not call it Deshittification ? Just like DeGoogle.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Coincidentally, Doctorow is the one who coined ‘enshittification’ originally.

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