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While Kremlin propaganda feeds Russians fairy tales about “great friendship” and “strategic partnership without limits,” Chinese media calmly discusses exactly how those limits will be redrawn. Not someday in the distant future — but when Russia collapses. And according to Chinese authors, preparations should begin now.

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[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 59 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Putin has driven Russia in a really bad situation. His army is currently unable to conquer Ukraine. He lost most of the old soviet stockpile of tanks, airplanes and equipment. It looks like his air defense is broken and Ukraine is bombarding his refineries on a weekly basis. And he has lost so many people. We can also guess that the majority of his army and his air defenses are currently in Ukraine.

If China really wants to take russian land there is not much that Putin can do against it except to use his nuclear weapons.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

except to use his nuclear weapons.

Which might not be properly maintained. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Might‽‽‽ I can almost guarantee those were the first casualties of the corruption that is endemic in the Russian government and military.

[–] jayambi@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

i rember this scene of the Chernobyl mini series:

"Ah its only 3.5(unit of radiation) we don't need to worry!

But the testing device they had could only go as far as 3.5... The actual level was around a factor of 100 or so...

[–] xeekei@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago

3.6 roentgen. Not great, not terrible.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Those soviet era devices still work I bet. I wonder if any fascists are using them...

[–] jayambi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago
[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

And that's just the military perspective. Economically, things are unlikely to look much better.

I think it was another clever move by the Chinese: Russia's abandonment of trade with Europe has made it very dependent on China. Sooner or later, they will be able to pick up the pieces - bankrupt assets at bargain prices, so to speak.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 8 points 4 months ago

Winnie doesn't need force. He simply can use his economic power.

If he simply puts a full embargo on Russia Putler would be done within a year.

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[–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 31 points 4 months ago (3 children)

AI Generated Thumbnail. No thanks, not reading that.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Good choice. The author claims there's an article somewhere in China that someone wrote. Never links to it. Never names the author. It read like fanfic.

[–] silly_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

To be fair if there is such an article, it is probably on wechat, which AFAIK does not allow outside links.

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[–] specimen@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (8 children)
[–] yakko@feddit.uk 43 points 4 months ago

They're not gonna fight. This one is over before it started, Russia is already well along the path to becoming a Chinese client state.

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[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I know you're all pigs feeding at the trough, but please have some self respect.

NetEase is a video game platform.

The author of this article never links to the article and I can't find it anywhere. (Edit: someone here found it for me and it's exactly as I thought. It's a Chinese gamer substance, the author has 48 followers, and his handle is just totally anonymous and shows he's a fan of a famous Chinese basketball player. "Chinese media" my ass.)

The author of this article never names the author of the article he's supposedly writing about. He just keeps saying "the author".

He's writing about something that is negative for Russia, as a Ukrainian "journalist", reporting on what is likely a random gamer doing the same bullshit armchair strategizing that you goons do on a regular basis, without citing a single thing and without backing up any of his claims.

"Chinese media" isn't discussing anything. This is not journalism. This is pure slop.

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[–] randomname@scribe.disroot.org 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I posted this already in another thread, but it fits here also.

In December 2024, a video was circulating on Chinese social media that shows how China should conquer parts of Siberia up to lake Baikal.

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[–] gigachad@piefed.social 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I guess you already know what I, as a German have to say regarding Kaliningrad/Konigsberg -

Tap for spoilerPlease keep that shithole for yourself, we don't want it

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact: Russia offered Königsberg to Germany in the 90s. Germany declined. They offered it to Poland next, which also declined.

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it because as soon as you have a large concentration of Russian people in a territory, that leaves a Causus Belli for Russia to attack you in the future under the guise of protecting their people?

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

Today, absolutely! Back then, it might not've been a concern, as Russia was effectively bankrupt and busy trying not to completely collapse. I think it was more about integrating a sizeable russian minority, dealing with significant enironmental pollution, deteriorating infrastructure and soviet-built nuclear reactors being too much of a headache, not to mention stupidly expensive.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

but imagine turning the hole place into a hans im glück

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 1 points 4 months ago

If, however, it is cleansed of orcish contamination, the topology of its bridges should be restored to what it was in Euler’s time, and it should be placed on the UNESCO world heritage register as such.

Other than that, making it Czechia’s Baltic port sounds sensible.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 14 points 4 months ago

Wonder if Japan has a chance of reclaiming its (never formally ceded) Northern Territories (“Kuril islands”), or whether China will occupy them specifically to prevent this.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I oppose Chinese imperialism.

BUT, anything that gives Poots a sad is OK with me.

[–] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure that's really what's happening. The plan is specifically for when Russia collapses. I fear that this might make the job of any more democratic successor to Putin much harder, because the worst way to start a new government is by having a large part of your country taken away.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago

Fair, but also exactly what happens to empires in general when they stumble. That's been true since the dawn of civilization, and for Russia herself in 1917, then in 1991.

Russia's case is particularly bad, because outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg, people seem to be very meh about being part of Russia, despite propaganda making it seem otherwise. I think we got the best indication of it when Wagner marched to Moscow without any significant resistance, cheered on by significant parts of the population.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 4 months ago

I doubt that China will try to break up Russia. I do think that China will aim to establish long-run Russian dependence on China.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If Winnie The Pooh could do us all a solid and stop supporting Russia for a goddamn second, they could easily take over the 1M km2. What's Russia going to do?

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

While china sides with russia, china still wants russia, Europe, and the US draining money and resources in Ukraine and not paying attention to Taiwan or its other territorial ambitions, including lands it previously lost to russia

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I can't wait for the tankie support of imperialist china. I'm not gay but I kinda enjoy watching someone suck their own dick.

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[–] rustyfish@piefed.world 3 points 4 months ago

External powers — the US, Japan — will try to intervene, but the Shanghai Cooperation Organization will “diplomatically fence them out.”

You overestimate how much we care about Russia, its territory or the people. The answer is: not that much. 

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

i really dont want china as neighbour..

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