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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 67 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Sorry, but you couldn't pay me to live in hurricane territory.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 120 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For many folks the possibility of a hurricane will be less terrifying than the consequences of staying in the U.S. if it continues down its current path.

[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Then there are floridians who have both!

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Between the ecological, sociological, ecosystemic, and political dangers, I am quite literally dumbfounded whenever I hear that someone is willingly moving to Florida.

[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 6 points 3 weeks ago

same. some of us are just stuck here though.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

The Keys seem chill once you get past the whole hurricane thing, but that may be because I've watched the show Bad Monkey one too many times. I've never actually been to Florida (or most places in the US for that matter, since I'm not American)

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[–] deluxe@lemmynsfw.com 47 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There are islands with 0-day residency requirements. You buy property, you never have to live there, and you still get a passport. You can AirBnB it.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

So all I'd need to do is sell out my morals and exploit my fellow citizens...

Nah I'm good.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it the Airbnb part that compromises your morals? If so there are also options to make donations and start businesses

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. A big part of the housing crisis in my area is rich assholes buying up homes and air bnb-ing them.

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

What if you buy the house and rent it to a local for less than other houses in the area?

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[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most people aren't even living there, they're just buying into citizenship and a tax haven.

[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

How is it a tax haven? Even when becoming a citizen in another country the US still requires you to pay taxes.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

If "capital gains not taxed" didn't leap off the page at you, you are a poor slob who must actually have w-2 income? Keep up the good work while the wealthy sleep soundly on the tax code they bought and wrote.

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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Earned income" means W2 wages not capital gains or any of the other avenues rich people make their money.

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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer kept insisting that companies "write it off" and Jerry asks if he even knows what that means.

[–] Elextra@literature.cafe 13 points 3 weeks ago

Right now it seems better than living under this administration.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, unlike tornados or earthquakes....hurricanes have a 3 to 5 day warning for you to prep.

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[–] howl2@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Im more concerned with the US conquest of central and South America. Puerto rico is having a buildup of military presence, as are other US outposts around the world. I would love to live in the Caribbean, and it's surprisingly affordable, but nah. I dont want to be in Europe for similar reasons relating to Russia.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 57 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Five of the region's island nations – Antigua and Barbuda, Dominica, Grenada, St Kitts and Nevis, and St Lucia – offer such citizenship by investment (CBI) from as little as $200,000 (£145,000).

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"as little as"

Fuuuuck off. 🥲

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 50 points 3 weeks ago

Almost any other citizenship by investment program costs millions. So, it is very cheap.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

In my area, houses are like 1 mil USD so in comparison, it is cheap

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 13 points 3 weeks ago

Haha this is where people go, "Oh you must live in like a expensive city" and like damn bro, every city is god damn expensive now!

Even in cheap cities, burger is $12+, rent is +$1000 per person, and good luck saving for that cheap housing that will be bought by companies to hopefully make a profit out of you when you borrow a 50-year loan.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean that house is cheap compared to the ones near me but I wouldn't be able to afford the air fare to visit it regularly

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Visit it regularly? You visit the house once and live there. It's called moving.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I highly doubt the majority of the people buying are making it their primary residence but it would nice if I'm wrong.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

It doesn't really matter what everyone else is doing if we're talking about our own individual situations though it would be a good idea to check the local job market before comitting.

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[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I do wonder what the point of this is? It says visa free visits to parts of Europe. How long can those visits be? You couldn't easily relocate anywhere outside the islands on a permanent basis?

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

The article isn't helpful for most of the target audience.

Citizens of the Carribbean nations in the article can currently enjoy up to 180 days in the EU visa-free. The same exact visa-free window as citizens of the US, UK, Canada, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand are granted.

Citizenship to one of these Carribbean island nations can certainly help you leave North America, but it doesn't help you get any more access to the EU than you currently have. It just helps you move to...the Carribbean.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

Some nationalities can’t enter Europe without a visa, so this would be an upgrade for them. But, for nationalities that already have visa free entry, it isn’t that helpful.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 3 points 3 weeks ago

Unless the situation with the US and access for its citizens, which is the main driver being mentioned.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you do 180 days as a US-ian, and another 180 days as a Caribbean-ian?

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Hey...wait a sec now.

Arrive in EU, go through customs with US passport, 180 days later go to the airport, walk straight to customs and go through with your Carribbean passport. Rinse and repeat every 180 days? Hmmm...

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

It's easier to move to italy spain or portugal. a lot of small towns there are becoming ghost towns and they have incentive programs for that. Why move to hurricane land to have an EU visa if you can mode to the EU

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Definitely an edge case, but my wife is a legal permanent resident and from the tiny bit of “just out of curiosity” research I’ve done, it seems like she would be eligible for and able to benefit from the expanded travel opportunities these programs offer.

[–] PurplebeanZ@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds great tbh. I am actually tempted at those prices

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