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[–] Steve@communick.news 86 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Isn't it the whole point, that they'll be better drivers than humans?
Or will they be so good they don't need to follow the rules?

[–] hanke@feddit.nu 37 points 3 months ago

That used to be the argument.

The point is still to make money though.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

No way. Driving dangerously creates risk no matter your skill level. You can't innovate your way around the laws of physics.

[–] Steve@communick.news 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe when it's illegal for humans to drive on public roads, and all the self-driving cars have a local mesh network to coordinate and negotiate actions, we can get rid of human road rules.

But yah, until then, no.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Except pedestrians and cyclists naturally won't be part of this network. So no, it will never be safe.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

Or that the rich make the rules.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 60 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah but when a human breaks the law they pay a fine. But corporations don't.

Maybe we should all register as a corporate entity and we'd get more protections and rights.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

A driver can lose their license or have it suspended or deal with a points system.

How would Waymo/Uber/Whatever experience that kind of retributive punishment ?

[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 months ago

disallow any use of their services for a set amount of time

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Big beautiful fines

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we should all register as a corporate entity and we’d get more protections and rights.

You're not the first person to have that idea though; look up "sovereign citizens". :P

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah but that's like you're not following any law but your own, here I'm going to follow corporate law

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mad Max mode is starkly different from other FSD settings like “Sloth” and “Chill.” Teslas using it will roll through stop signs and blast past other vehicles on the road. One driver posted a YouTube video showing his Mad Max-enabled Tesla hitting 82 mph while whizzing by a 65 mph speed limit sign. A social media user wryly suggested that Mad Max “should just immediately write you a ticket when you turn it on.”

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The driver is still in control of max speed via settings or dynamically. If you set the speed offset to 0%, it will set your max speed to the speed limit. There are also settings to control passing.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if mad max mode is different for Australian cars. All it does here is pass other cars on multi lane roads even if they're only going a tiny bit slower than you. The other settings are more tolerant of slowing down. Mad max is the least tolerant of three TACC settings.

It still stops at any intersection, including green lights unless you authorise it or it sees several other cars going through. It always stops at stop or give way signs.

Speed settings: if you activate self steering you can't go more than 10km/h over the speed limit as the car currently believes it to be (mine reads a temporary 80 sign as 30, and an end of road works 100 sign half in a ditch as 60). With self steering off you can set whatever speed. It flashes the speed at you if you select a speed higher than its idea of the limit.

My speed is set to +2km/h as that's the speedometer error, so in an 80 zone it defaults to 82

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

They actually got rid of mad max (at least in USA). The three options are chill, standard, and hurry now.

[–] etherphon@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fuck here we go again, first corporations are people (Citizens United), now cars are going to be people.

[–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago

Meanwhile, immigrants, brown people, poor people and especially the homeless are considered less and less to be people.

[–] UnGlasierteGurke@feddit.org 19 points 3 months ago

drunk driving AI 🎉 let's go.~/s~