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[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 hours ago

Yeah but when a human breaks the law they pay a fine. But corporations don't.

Maybe we should all register as a corporate entity and we'd get more protections and rights.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 26 points 4 hours ago

Mad Max mode is starkly different from other FSD settings like “Sloth” and “Chill.” Teslas using it will roll through stop signs and blast past other vehicles on the road. One driver posted a YouTube video showing his Mad Max-enabled Tesla hitting 82 mph while whizzing by a 65 mph speed limit sign. A social media user wryly suggested that Mad Max “should just immediately write you a ticket when you turn it on.”

[–] Steve@communick.news 38 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Isn't it the whole point, that they'll be better drivers than humans?
Or will they be so good they don't need to follow the rules?

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

No way. Driving dangerously creates risk no matter your skill level. You can't innovate your way around the laws of physics.

[–] Steve@communick.news 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe when it's illegal for humans to drive on public roads, and all the self-driving cars have a local mesh network to coordinate and negotiate actions, we can get rid of human road rules.

But yah, until then, no.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Except pedestrians and cyclists naturally won't be part of this network. So no, it will never be safe.

[–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 2 hours ago

First, nothing is "safe" in absolute terms. Literally everything a question of relative safety in comparison to something else.

Second I think you're still imagining something like the current road and street systems we have today. Replaceing and outlawing human driving will be at least a century away. By then the transit network will look very different.

The local "last mile" surface streets would have to be mostly bus like systems with very low speeds. In cities at least. In rural areas people at all wouldn't be allowed to walk or cycle on roads for vehicles. There would be seperate routes for that.

Highways will exclusively kind of psudo-road-trains, of buses and cargo trucks. Maybe the wealthy will have their own personal vehicles. Probably not most people.

Of course you and I won't see anything beyond the early stages of this transition.

[–] hanke@feddit.nu 19 points 5 hours ago

That used to be the argument.

The point is still to make money though.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago

Or that the rich make the rules.

[–] UnGlasierteGurke@feddit.org 11 points 4 hours ago

drunk driving AI 🎉 let's go.~/s~